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From: Capac MI
GM?
Hey, Just wanted to know how people feel about GM products?? Never owned one, Had Family and friends that did and hated them. Just asking becuase at my automotive tec class i hear every day that Ford sucks and GM is the best. Its pretty much non stop. Getting annoying. Well if anyones got any Input to all this or some good combacks, Post up! Mainly comes from a kid with a Grand prix that he put a supercharger and a cam in it. Cocky MO FO LOL
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i had a 1971 3/4 chevy 4x4.....loved that thing, one of the best looking trucks ever made, but really impractical to drive everyday, especially long trips, but it does great in the mud..
one thing i would them is....what in paticular sucks about ford? or do they not know enough about automotives to actually say anything worthwhile?
one thing i would them is....what in paticular sucks about ford? or do they not know enough about automotives to actually say anything worthwhile?
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Well i just make fun of him saying he junked a grandmas car, but its just im 1 against 13. Seriously im not even joking my instructor asked, "are there any true ford fans out there??" and i raised my hand. Felt proud to do it but i got dirty looks and that a hole said haha ford sucks again. I just cant come up with a come back. I would also like to hear wut you guys have to say lol
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ford has the best selling truck in america, millions can't be wrong.
or you can just ignore the immaturity and breath a sigh of releif when you finally get out of school and get to be around more mature and educated people.
or you can just ignore the immaturity and breath a sigh of releif when you finally get out of school and get to be around more mature and educated people.
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YES, Exactly! I love that class, Workin on motors and cars. ITs just bull crap i gotta deal with that all day. But when im out of there and i hear my dads powerstroke start up, I feel like a million bucks.
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Well, ask him why GM uses the junky feeling interior trims that fail prematurely. And why the stick with annoying things like seat mounted shoulder belts. How Does GM sell the Sub since the '30s, yet when Ford mounts some competition in the form of the Excursion, they are pilloried? And why does GM lose market share, just like Ford, only more? Ford has problems and has pulled some foolish stunts, but GM has troubles too. Ask anyone who has been nickle and dimed by their Hummer or Tahoe etc.
To stick with "the other brand sucks" shows you are dealing with a punk who hasn't learned to think. Tell 'em so.
To stick with "the other brand sucks" shows you are dealing with a punk who hasn't learned to think. Tell 'em so.
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From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
just tell them you are in the class to learn how to be the best mechanic you can be, so when you get out of school, you can go to work in the GMC dealership, cause everyone knows that GMC stands for GOT A MECHANIC COMING.
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I used to have this in my sig; "Chevy's are like opinions, every a hole has one."
Don't get me started, I'll get sensored, at best.
Don't get me started, I'll get sensored, at best.
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Heh.
Ask him how many fuel pumps he's replaced. If he says none, just use that thin arrogant smile and say "you will." Trust me, at some point, he will. GM fuel pumps suck, and when they go bad, it's a royal PITA to replace them.
Think of it this way. They get to watch your one vehicle for problems. You, on the other hand, have 13 vehicles to make fun of. It's just a matter of time...
Ask him how many fuel pumps he's replaced. If he says none, just use that thin arrogant smile and say "you will." Trust me, at some point, he will. GM fuel pumps suck, and when they go bad, it's a royal PITA to replace them.
Think of it this way. They get to watch your one vehicle for problems. You, on the other hand, have 13 vehicles to make fun of. It's just a matter of time...
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Working on a GM product is just like workin on a Ford product. Both brands had thier high and low points. I'd say that in 1/2 ton trucks things are pretty well equal for any given year. Both companys FWD cars are essentally rolling garbage. GM's automatic gearboxes are better than Ford . But the Ford 2300 4cyl and the 300 I6 are amoung some of the most durable engines EVER.
I find GM wiring and engine MGMT systems to be a bit eaiser to work with than ford (Both being lightyears ahead of chrysler). Ford always had a better AC system than GM.
Now one thing I've noticed against FORD is they are usually first with really retarded engennering from a service point of view, only to be copied by GM a few years later. EXAMPLE: In bellhousing clutch slave cylinders and "quick" connect fuel fittings.
Any "instructor" who rails against Ford when there is a company called Chrysler corp in buisness onviously has no concept of what he's instructing.
I find GM wiring and engine MGMT systems to be a bit eaiser to work with than ford (Both being lightyears ahead of chrysler). Ford always had a better AC system than GM.
Now one thing I've noticed against FORD is they are usually first with really retarded engennering from a service point of view, only to be copied by GM a few years later. EXAMPLE: In bellhousing clutch slave cylinders and "quick" connect fuel fittings.
Any "instructor" who rails against Ford when there is a company called Chrysler corp in buisness onviously has no concept of what he's instructing.
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I don't have a problem with Chevy's.
I drove an S-10 High Country for a few years and thought it was a decent truck. Had a crappy off-road package that even my '83 Ranger with the worn differential could beat. Too bad too, it was a nice looking rig.
I drove a Chevy Cheyenne for a while on the farm and I loved that truck. It was beat all the hell, but given a choice I would have bought it off the owner and restored it. I bet he still drives it on the farm today.
Of course all that said I still drive Rangers, exclusively.
I drove an S-10 High Country for a few years and thought it was a decent truck. Had a crappy off-road package that even my '83 Ranger with the worn differential could beat. Too bad too, it was a nice looking rig.
I drove a Chevy Cheyenne for a while on the farm and I loved that truck. It was beat all the hell, but given a choice I would have bought it off the owner and restored it. I bet he still drives it on the farm today.
Of course all that said I still drive Rangers, exclusively.
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GM built very good trouble free vehicles up through the 60's.
It's been a long down hill slide ever since.
Trying to link up with Nissan had everything to do with acquiring modern technology, where GM is way behind today.
Their OHV (cam in block) engine design dates back to the 1940's...and the 4 speed auto to the 50's.
Their passenger car line looks modern...but in fact, the Impala, LaCrosse and the Pontiac whatever are nothing more than reskinned 1996 models.
The Buick Lucerne and Cadillac DTS are updated Olds Auroras from 1993.
The pickups, outside of being reskinned...haven't been updated much since the 1980's.
GM..once the industry innovator...has become a copycat...taking the best features from the competition, and adding them to their next new models.
Sad.
It's been a long down hill slide ever since.
Trying to link up with Nissan had everything to do with acquiring modern technology, where GM is way behind today.
Their OHV (cam in block) engine design dates back to the 1940's...and the 4 speed auto to the 50's.
Their passenger car line looks modern...but in fact, the Impala, LaCrosse and the Pontiac whatever are nothing more than reskinned 1996 models.
The Buick Lucerne and Cadillac DTS are updated Olds Auroras from 1993.
The pickups, outside of being reskinned...haven't been updated much since the 1980's.
GM..once the industry innovator...has become a copycat...taking the best features from the competition, and adding them to their next new models.
Sad.
I don't think it's all that clear-cut really. Right now- today's products- GM seems to have an edge in passenger cars and big SUV's, while Ford's strength is in trucks.
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Trying to link up with Nissan had everything to do with acquiring modern technology, where GM is way behind today.
Their OHV (cam in block) engine design dates back to the 1940's
Their passenger car line looks modern...but in fact, the Impala, LaCrosse and the Pontiac whatever are nothing more than reskinned 1996 models.
The Buick Lucerne and Cadillac DTS are updated Olds Auroras from 1993.
The Buick Lucerne and Cadillac DTS are updated Olds Auroras from 1993.
The pickups, outside of being reskinned...haven't been updated much since the 1980's.
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From: nunya
I traded in a chevy silverado for a new Expedition 5.4 4x4 fully loaded.BIG MISTAKE! DOnt get me wrong I like Fords but Chevy trucks/suvs have better styling more power(gas) and better MPG. My Exppie only gets 10 mpg in town,12 on the fwy!! Thats a
far cry from the 26 fwy,18 city that my silverado got. I like Chevies and I like Fords. I dont like Dodge or imports.
far cry from the 26 fwy,18 city that my silverado got. I like Chevies and I like Fords. I dont like Dodge or imports.