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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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Well, I have been a Ford lover for many years; mainly the Mustang and more recently trying to get more familiar with the F-series, but I am definately not an expert. I was hoping to find some truck guru's here! I was actually hoping to get some advice on a birthday gift that I'd like to get for a special someone. This man is beyond an enthusiast. When we finished college in 2005 his first purchase came when he ordered his dream '06 powerstroke. He's been drooling over powerstokes for as long as I can remember! Anyway, his truck is a real beauty...I would be jealous if I wasn't getting to learn more about trucks and getting the chance to drive her every now and then; plus there is just something about that diesel rumble...

He hasn't been able to make any upgrades or give her a facelift because he bought a house and is back in school working on his Master's degree. My point is that I would love to get him an intake for his black beauty...But I have no clue on what to get, where to shop, etc. He is in the know about it all, but I would really like to surprise him for his 25th. If anyone can give me some pointers or suggestions on where and what to look for I would be very greatful. Thanks so much in advance for any help or insight you can give me!!!

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Need to know how to find and chose a great intake for an '06 F-250 Diesel Superduty, 6.0 Liter, V8
 
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by luzchimalma
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Need to know how to find and chose a great intake for an '06 F-250 Diesel Superduty, 6.0 Liter, V8
Welcome to FTE lots of good people and info around here

As far as intakes go the 6.0 PSD has the best intake available already installed by Ford. The 6.0 PSD comes with the Donaldson Power Core and it is the best option unless he is heavily modifing his truck to race at the track.

So that being said i would stick with the stock intake IMHO.

Now how about getting him something else for his truck, like window tint, alarm system, vent visors. These are just a few suggestions. Don't know what you have in mind for a budget. Let us know and we can give you some more ideas.

Hope this helps
 
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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whatever u buy him dont buy a k&n intake or filter system for a powerstroke, i have a 06 powerstroke also it is my dream truck to, the k&n system let alot of dirt and dust pass thru the filter into my turbo and engine i put the factory sytem back on, everyone says its the best u can get, but if u r gonna buy an aftermarket intake i would look at the afe stage 2 magnum force intake system with pro guard 7 filter, i have heard lots of good things about this system. u could buy him a tuner for his truck there r many to choose from, i run a diablo sport on mine its not the best one out there but it gives the truck alot more power when needed and its one of the cheaper ones,. or u could buy him a cat delete pipe for the exhaust system, this is where u put a pipe inplace of the catalytic converter, makes the turbo whistle be a little louder coming out the exhaust pipe, i am going to do this mod to mine to make it sound better.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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Thanks for the info. I was sneeky enough to get him to spill that he would like to add around 6 more horsepower and some low-end torque. As far a budget goes...I haven't decided, so I'll have to get back about that. Thanks again, Happy Halloween!
 
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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you could always get an exhaust system. not only do they sound great, but its around the price.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BowTieHatr
you could always get an exhaust system. not only do they sound great, but its around the price.
I am guessing your talking cat back, correct?
 
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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why you say that? i am not the federal govt. i am not a cat lover anyway just ask my focus lol.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Gauges, Gauges, Gauges. There are some GREAT looking gauge packages that are the best start to vehicle longevity. They're much more practical than an intake, and actually tell what is going on with the truck. The factory gauges are nothing more than glorified idiot lights---the exception being the boost gauge. Exhaust next and then build from there......the possibilities are virtually unlimited. Just DON'T waste your money on an A/M air intake unless he's gonna race the truck hardcore--it's just not necessary.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BowTieHatr
why you say that? i am not the federal govt. i am not a cat lover anyway just ask my focus lol.
Just thinking of some of the potential dealer warranty issues, (from unbending dealers and/or techs, since she is buying as a gift and we don't know the owners adversion to warranty etc.


Yes npccpartsman brings up a good point gauges, Egt, Trans temp and volts.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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good point.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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luzchimalma,

The AFE Stage II Mega systems is the one to get, the stock system is good at stopping dirt however you'll never get the 30,000 out of the filter that Ford and Donaldson claim, I changed my 1st one at 8000 miles and got 2-3 PSI boost increase!! That shows how clogged it already was and would only get worse in longer periods too! Get the AFE is Pro Guard 7 and his engine is protected and he'll get some HP and a much quicker spool up oin the turbo and lower EGT's which translate to better potential MPG's too! We have a sale on the AFE's since they are a new system just released a couple of months ago so you can save some money too. Call us if you have any questions etc.

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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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luzchimalma,

The AFE Stage II Mega systems is the one to get, the stock system is good at stopping dirt however you'll never get the 30,000 out of the filter that Ford and Donaldson claim, I changed my 1st one at 8000 miles and got 2-3 PSI boost increase!! That shows how clogged it already was and would only get worse in longer periods too! Mark @ DPPI
Mark with all do respect, this is just very misleading on your part. The only test that is going to show how clogged a filter is, is a bench test on an approved flow machine, following strict industry testing standards.
I have personally gotton over 50K on the Donaldson filters with no loss in power or mileage and know many others who have as well. The air restriction gauge under the hood works, and Ford recommens changing the filter based on the gauge and to check the gauge at least every 15K. All heavy equipment and over the road semi's change based on air restriction gauges as well and have for many years.

Here is a link posted by 'jovis" to a very good article on air filtration systems.
www.duramax-diesel.com/spicer/index.htm

Originally Posted by Mark at DPPI
Get the AFE is Pro Guard 7 and his engine is protected and he'll get some HP and a much quicker spool up oin the turbo and lower EGT's which translate to better potential MPG's too! We have a sale on the AFE's since they are a new system just released a couple of months ago so you can save some money too. Call us if you have any questions etc.
Mark @ DPPI
This is an interesting statement since it mirrors the marketing hyperbole spread by AFE and the other aftermarket filter manufactures. Yet all the guys who race the 6.0 and have them heavily modded (way beyond a tuner and exhaust) all say that an aftermarket air filter system is a waste of money and you won't see any benefit in performance, until extreme racing conditions are met and they go on to say that when thet change to the aftermarket filtration systems on there full race motors they get more engine wear do to the increased dirt passing thru the system. This from racers who spend thousands of dollars on there motors and can & will use any and all means to go faster.
The 6.0L (366 cu in) motor can only use some much air based on its size and the factory installed Donaldson Powercore system more than meets these requirements.
Basic physics and airflow dynamics dictate that to pass more air through a surface you have to increase the hole size to allow more & larger particles to pass thru.Sorry for the rant but it has been shown many times on this forum and others along with private testing that to get the increased air flow all aftermarket filter manufactures claim, there filters all pass more dirt than factory systems.

With no positive benefits to an aftermarket filtration system on a stock motor but negative benefits of increased dirt ingestion into the motor along with potential warranty issues on a $10,000 motor, why would someone want to risk all this by removing the stock system. It just doesn't add up.

Futhermore everytime there is an air filter question, you post right up and tell them the Donaldson is junk you need the "AFE" and buy it from Me.
Yes you are a corprate sponser on this site like many others, but you seem to be the worst about spreading missinformation to sell your product. I cannot believe this is your only product line. You will notice many members of this site (me included) are the first ones to tell people to buy from the site sponsers when it is a good product.

Sorry for the rant, but shameless plugs for a product you sell, and using marketing hyperbole to further that point, just bothers me, especially when you are directing this to a new member who knows little about the engine and is trying to buy a gift for someone else.

 
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Stock filter STILL won't register on a vacuum gauge even with a modified 65mm turbo compressor wheel. Have dynoed with a full open element (stock box with filter completely gone) and with a stock filter and made no gains.

People can float and sputter what they like, matter of the fact is as far as I'm concerned there is no improving upon what is already there. Even with a larger turbo and larger injectors I continue to run stock and have no issues whatsoever.

It's a waste of money and a waste of dirt...even at 500+ HP. If I ever modded a truck to where I NEEDED an aftermarket filter, the truck would not even be streetable and I would simply run no filter at all.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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Thank you all for all of your input. It sounds like we don't need to change what is already there. I did some more research online and I agree that Ford did a good job. So let's forget about changing the intake. I don't mean to be nieve on the subjects, but it is a little weird that I'm an environmental engineer and love diesels don't you think?!

What do you think about an exhaust? I know that what he would like is a dual 4" turbo back system w/ 5" tips. It has nothing to do with performance; we both just like the way the dual exhaust looks. He also mentioned once that a company called Aero has a good muffler, but they don't make it for Ford's. Does anyone know if anyone makes a comparable muffler? I only ask about the muffler just in case the exhaust system might be too far out on pricing.

Thanks again and have a great day!
 
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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when i got my F350 the PO had put a K&N on it, and i hate it...I'm tired of cleaning that pos, and am wanting to put the stock intake back on.
 
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