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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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A good friend of mine has the same crewcab as mine (more or less), but with the 6.0PSD. Let him take mine for a drive today and he was blowin away with how much power it had. He had a hard time starting off as he kept lanching us back with too much gas and then would back off and pitch us forward. Was kinda funny.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Funny I had to do an edit as the board will not let me use the word "truck"in the above post, I had to use crewcab instead. I just noticed it cut the word "power" as well?????
 

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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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i drive a 05 F350, dually, 2wd, auto, "SICK point SLOW" ! i go from my V10 (instant throttle responce!), to my work truck, and i hit the throttle, and it is ssssooooooo slugish till that darn thing builds 12-15lbs of boost. if i've been driving that thing AALLLLLL day, i jump in the 10er and it throws me back, and then i think "DARN glad to be in this again!"

i'm not a 6.0 fan. althought they produce awsome torque, and there are gobs of mods out there for them (some cheap with ok power gains, to BIG BUCKS with outragious power increase)! and unfortunaly the 10ers are kinda limited to power adders! i'll still take my BIG 10er!!
 
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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My wife has a 2000 F-250 with the 7.3. I had to put some speed mods like the Bully Dog Power PuP and others just so I wouldn't go crazy by how slow it was. Check out her truck in my gallery.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Wonder what THAT was all about?

Originally Posted by Super08
Funny I had to do an edit as the board will not let me use the word "truck"in the above post, I had to use crewcab instead. I just noticed it cut the word "power" as well?????
Wonder what THAT was all about? If they're gonna edit posts over stuff like that, I won't be around here long. That's just wrong!
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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I'm wondering about this slow diesel response to a "request" for power....

And the only reason I do so is that I have noticed a similar event with the diesels at work. Could it be that, inorder to meet EPA emissions regs., that the "ramp-up" time has been increased to try to eliminate the (now small) puff of smoke diesels like to put out when accelerated?

At work I have noticed the throttle response time is dramatically increased with the new "green certified" engines coming out and I think they're modifying the older ones as they rotate through the shops for scheduled maintenance.

All I know is it is a pain in the neck when moving from one piece of equipment to another trying to figure out the lead time to get the desired reaction from the power unit.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Super08
Funny I had to do an edit as the board will not let me use the word "truck"in the above post, I had to use crewcab instead. I just noticed it cut the word "power" as well?????
do you mean the change of color to blue on words typed in? if so the web site software takes certain words and turns it into hot links to the sites advertisers useing that type of wording in their advertiseing, like my company is level10power. you type in valve Body and have it turn into a hot link to our shop where we build high performance auto tranies.it's nothing to worry about your not being sensered.

now power wise i also agree with with every one else about the turbo lag in the psd's great motors for the very long haul. but not for those of use who enjoy the instant power of our = working monster gas v10
 

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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Super08
Funny I had to do an edit as the board will not let me use the word "truck"in the above post, I had to use crewcab instead. I just noticed it cut the word "power" as well?????
I was referring to this post...not really sure what he meant.....

Luv my V-10 (Hated the Cat V-8 V636 NA in my '77 L7000 (Louisville)...it ran OK but was the stinkingest motor I ever saw...worse than early Army diesels!)

Louisville = Ford had a brain hiccup when they divested that model.

Had they made a "shrunken" version it would be the ruling little truck.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:01 AM
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i would have to guess you mean a cat 3208 engine.yes the early ones had problems. while later ones where more refined and a ok motor for it's size, then most of the l.v's i have driven and worked on had cumaparts in them.

army.navy any military branch save the coast guard "cumaparts" those motors of old were detroit 2 stroke diesels. they had good and bad points for a motor designed durning ww2 and made untill around the time MB purchased the company around 1990? and dropped the 2 stroke design. i used to love working on them and running them in boats where they worked great. the 6-71tib could run a easy 485 marine pshp. amazing at the hp they would run out to. they more or less were the very first modular motor ever made as most of the parts from one fit another series 53-71 92-149. and bigger . all by per cylinder displacement cubic inches.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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Yep 3208 I'm pretty sure. It was rebuilt some time before I bought the truck. The gentleman who owned it passed away and his family knew very little about the truck. I got more info from the rebuild guy.

Yes, all those cubes and only 175 h.p. I got fair mileage with it for a 11 ft. tall 21 ft. long van body on a fairly stout chassis. Had a sweet 5 & 2 transmission/axle set-up, well spaced gears for the engine, but just a tad short on power, I thought. If I can find the pics and borrow a scanner, I'll post the truck I had built for my delivery route.

I was in the Army '71 - '73 and we had some variety of diesels...well...multifuels to be exact. 45KW generator sets had a 3-cyl (h.p.=?) diesel, deuce and a halfs (built by Jeep) were all diesel/multifuel...ran nice, steered hard off road. Five tons were mostly old gassers (we had one on a convoy, running bad, got 1 m.p.g.), but were being replaced with new ones equipped w/ Cummins (not multifuel)(cumaparts, I presume...I just drove 'em, I didn't fix 'em). The M757, M656, M791 all had a turbo diesel/multifuel and I don't know who made it. The trucks were assenbled by Ford, had Allison 6-sp AT, 8x8 axle/wheel configuration (yes, four steer tires and the darn things did not "know" which way was forward, you had to bring it back to straight forward and it was a two-fisted affair to do so, hence the AT). Seems like the engine was from yet a third manufacturer...beefy engine for the day...200 h.p. I-6) They were used for the Pershing weapons system. Pics of them too if I can find them.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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sounds like you and fredvon4 will get along great, he is retired army. a few other guys the same. when bfgr250sd logs in he just got back from over there not long ago and now is a bronze star winner - e7 ranger trainer at benning waiting for the new list with hopes of e8 this round. me 1 hitch navy to cg reserve e7. retired 2004 .

care to talk about boats? sitting on my wall is my 100ton master near coastal for charter boats ohh the sound of the sea 200 miles out. and a dd 2stroke running at trolling speeds .
welcome to our area of fun man.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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Well, I don't know a lot about boats, but I know some have big diesels in 'em, some shared with what I do know a bit about: locomotives. I could know a lot more if I half tried, but I drive 'em, I don't fix 'em.

Say, a show on Discovery about some tug in NY harbor, had 4 V-16 GE diesels in it 6,000 h.p. each...funny, GE locomotives have V-16's ranging from 4,000 to 6,000 h.p., I bet they are very similar.

Back in the fifties Fairbanks-Morse locomotives had opposed piston diesels in them, adapted from naval applications, I believe.

Hey, I took a peek at that engine of yours and I envy! I see it's set up to run. Nice, man, nice!
 

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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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Those words might disappear if you have ad-blocking software installed. It sees the link as an ad, and removes it.

As to the slow "ramp up" of diesels, it's all about the turbo lag.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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Those words might disappear if you have ad-blocking software installed. It sees the link as an ad, and removes it.

As to the slow "ramp up" of diesels, it's all about the turbo lag.
whitch stock, to me, SUX!! i gotta have that instant umph of the V10. but that's just me. i drive that 05 6.0 on a daily basis, and i have a REALY HARD time every time i get in it, since i'm so used to the V10!

now i have never driven a suped up 6.0 (i have driven a suped up 7.3 running 44's, and it was awsome!) but i'm sure all the power adders will help with the lag issue. that's where i give it to the PSD's, plenty of pep-up stuff out there, V10's are limited.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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One way to get the turbo to spool up faster is dump more fuel in right off-idle. That gets more exhaust gases created, spinning up the turbo faster.

Of course, too much BANG in those cylinders at too low an RPM isn't going to help the rods, crank or the pistons themselves.

Hence, shorter engine life.

You can't have it both ways.

Either you get a fast diesel and less engine life, or a slow diesel and it lasts forever.

Something I wish all dieseler's would understand, and TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR especially when it comes to warranties.

What I love is the "remove the tuner and disconnect the battery before bringing it in for warranty work".

Ford is in such a bad place right now, that any dieseler who wants to warranty their 6.0 after chipping it should be shot

But that's just me.
 
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