Hey Everyone.

Well it all boils down to i want more power out of my 2003 6.0 CC F250. As of right now i am running a K&N Intake System with a MBRP 4" Exhaust with a Cat Delete Pipe, and a Superchips Flashpaq Programmer in performace mode. My Truck is lifted 6.5"s with 37s with stock 3.73ls gears. I know the big thing to do is prob go to 4.56s and get some power back from losing it in the gearing. But also what else can i add to get more power. Possible propane injection? or maybe something else to do that i have yet to hear about. I also would like to keep my truck reliable since it is a daily driver. Also nothing to extensive where a huge amount of engine mods have to be performed so i dont blow gaskets or eat valves. Its just ive been seeing plenty of tyhese dyno videos of trucks with 600hp and 1100 lbs of toque and just curious how they are reaching these numbers and seeing if i could make mine similar without killing the motor and tranny.


Thank you

 

Check out the competition section at the end of the diesel section. You'll find more answers to your questions there. It's not for the warranty friendly though--strictly performance oriented.

 

Dump the Superchips and contact Eric at Innovative Diesel for a custom tuned SCT Xcal2. I wish I had done more research prior to buying the Edge Juice. However, I have now sold the Edge and bought an SCT. With the SCT and Eric's tunes, this truck is faster in the 1/4 than the Edge running on NOS!

 

My feeling is that the edge isn't going to ruin your truck's engine/transmission as fast as the SCT.

my $.02

 

Edge uses 4 more degrees of injector timing than even the hottest SCT tunes, and doesn't recalibrate the transmission to deal with the extra torque (unless you get the latest Edge stuff, which still doesn't do anything except add regulated pressure). Care to give a factual basis for this statement?

 

You may want to do a search around here about that, as actually just the opposite is true, from all the reports coming in from the people in the know who run heavily modded motors.

The SCT is the tuner of choice.

On Edit: Sorry Matt didn't mean to step on your post, i was typing when your post came-in.
You all are advised to head Matt's (PSD 60L FX4) advice, he knows of what he speaks. I know of no one who knows more about modding the 6.0 than he does.

 

Truth be told, I am just regurgitating what has been told to me by several local shops. (Lopers performance, Offroad Unlimited)

I am by NO means an expert on ANYTHING diesel. My only personal experience is with the Edge Juice Extreme Platinum with Attitude (Man thats a mouthfull). It allows for backdown settings based on slippage, shift points, shift pressure, lock up and EGT's. (am I missing anything else?)

Anyhow, I'm man enuff to admit when and if Im wrong so please accept my appologies that I cannot back up my statement with facts, just here-say.

 

I wish more people on here would do that. Kudos to you!

 

Just and FYI the guys at Lopers are scary, if you talk to the mechanics in the shop some know a little but most don't race and esp these trucks. And the sales flunkies in the parts shop don't know much at all about anything and then only small amounts about Chevy small block gassers. Lopers heyday is long since over. As for Offroad Unlimited it is hit or miss depending on the tech. Unfortunately these places have become just aftermarket parts sales houses, not true wrench turners with any knowledge.

As for any posts by Matt (PSD 60L FX4) he has modded these to the max and knows what works and what doesn't so when he speaks those in the know listen.

Yes and kudos for admitting you didn't have any facts to back up your statements. To many people can't admit when they are proven wrong.

 

i have recently learned that k and n intake systems on 6.0 ps r junk and do not filter near as good as the factory system, i just got my2006 ps truck back from ford for an oil leak, they checked the turbo while they were in there, they told me that what they call dusting was occuring and the finish has started to come off the impeller on the turbo because dirt is passing thru the filter and sandblasting the impeller, they said if i dont want to replace the turbo in the near future i better put a better intake filter system or the factory system back on this truck, so i put the factory system back on for now, when i looked at the impeller it looked dusted and the finsh had started coming off, the k and n intake tube had dirt or fine dust all in it, this k and n system is getting shiped back to k and n for a refund, i am looking into a afe stage 2 magnum force system with a pro guard 7 filter........but i will say that i can tell a difference in the factory and the k and n, the k and n gave noticeable more power on take off i guess it allows a lot more air to flow but it just does not filter very good, i also run a diablo sport predator on this truck which gives alot of power.

 

Is the SCT Xcal2 really worth it. I could prob sell off my Superchips local to a buddy no problem. But is it worth it to get another programmer? does it make that much of a difference. Also does it have the same features as a Flashpaq where you can update onine via USB Cable and Computer and are you able to read and clear DTC's?

 

Well, thanks for the Kudos. I don't have any reason to be all macho while hiding behind a computer screen. These forums are designed to be informative and a place for learning.

So, some of the MISINFORMATION I got was from Lopers. The sales guy there said that he installed the same exact edge programmer that I bought by himself. When I asked him about the EGT sensor, and how it was istalled, he says: "just drill a hole in the exhaust and throw it in there! That's what I did." I'm standing there looking at it thinking... uhhhhh no? Anyhow, he was lying and I never got a good feeling about their service there.

Offroad Unlimited in Mesa is a really good shop. The techs are very good and have a love for their job. As well as the sales guy I work with Noah, he is cool and knowledgable and willing to work on the price. Those guys are best at gas truck suspensions however and not diesel in particular.

I DID find an awesome shop in Scottsdale called Strictly Diesel. The guys there were VERY informative and smart and had no problem spending time with me going over my truck. They have a true LOVE for their job which to me is the most important thing. I am going to have them put on my exhaust for me and do a few maintance items as well. I will report back on my findings.

 

Desert_Dude,

Yeah unfortunately Lopers went down hill years ago and all the knowledgeable people in the shop left, and most in the speed shop were always pretty lame.

As for Off Road Unlimited, as i said depends on the tech, but do to a few ownership changes thru the years, they have become hit or miss.

I have no experience with Strictly Diesel in Scottsdale, but have heard some good things thru the grapevine. Be curious to see how things turn out for you.

Sorry for the off topic posts guys

Back to the topic at hand

 

Whereas the superchips comes with canned tunes the SCT is completely programmable by your dealer and updatable online. all it takes is an email and a usb cable. Matt G. (psd 60L Fx4) can hook you up as he currently writes the best tunes in the country--IMHO. There are dealers here who can do the same. You can get SCT with canned tunes, but they're not as good as Matt's and some other very respected tuners.

 

npccpartsman and others

What am i looking at spending (unit plus buying the custom tunes) said and done. Just seeing if it is worth trying to get rid of my flashpaq and trying out the SCT.