Notices
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks

t5 5speed info

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 19, 2006 | 07:33 PM
  #1  
cbfomoco's Avatar
cbfomoco
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 572
Likes: 0
t5 5speed info

Ok i have been looking over some of the past threads and am getting confused. I have been thinking about puting a t5 into a 58 f100 with a 223 I should be aquiring soon. It has the four speed tranny currently. I know that the bell housing has to be modified. after that i get confused. Which trany would i look for? ford? Ch@by? I know there are ones with different gear ratios. and i think the s10 t5 has the better shifter. Do the t5 bolt up the same to the bell housing even if you go with differnet manfactures? is the s10 trany the one to look for? I also want to use the mech spedo so I know i would need to find a trany that would allow for that. Also what about the clutch? is is a hyberd thing or do i use the ford stuff? I would guess ford pressure plate, cheby disk and the bearings i have no idea on. Also i dont guess there are just an alum adaptor plate instead of the bell mod? anyone have anymore info? link, or anything else would be great. Thanks
 
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2006 | 10:21 PM
  #2  
Cowman's Avatar
Cowman
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
From: Everett, Washington
I'm not sure what kind of bell housing the 223 uses so what I am using on my 302 may not work. Others have mentioned in my T-5 thread adapters for a hogshead but I'm not sure what that is. Maybe ther are some adaptors for yours.
The reason I did not go with the S-10 tranny was not so much strength but the gear ratio of the first gear. Typically they are very low. The only reason for using the S-10 tailshaft housing is to get the shifter into the correct location. Don't know if that is needed on a '58 of not. It definitely is for a '53. Hope it works out for you. Keep us posted an what you do.
 
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 12:29 AM
  #3  
mtflat's Avatar
mtflat
Lead Driver
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 6,774
Likes: 552
From: Kalispell, MT
Maybe this will help - all T5 trannies are made by BW and are basically the same externally. The mustang tends to be "World Class" in the strength department while the S10's tend to have the standard strength gears and bearings. Find any T5 that was behind a V8 and you'll be good. The lighter varieties will also hold up unless you stand on the gas frequently.

Both will work for our projects. The mustang T5 has the shifter located at the back of the tail housing - between the bucket seats - not good for a bench seat in pickups. The S10 uses a shifter location closer to the top-loader position and almost right on target for our pickups with bench seats and floor shifts. As I understand it, you can swap tail housings and top covers between the S10 and Mustang T5's, thus gaining the wc gears/bearings with a center mounted shifter.

Pre '82 (I think) you get the mechanical speedo gears/cable. After that it's electronic speedo.

Adapters sold by a variety of mfgr's bolt between the transmission box and the bellhousing. Some guys refer to the bellhousing as a 'hogshead' due to it's shape.

If you use the S10 tranny, use the chevy clutch disk to match the splines on the input shaft - everything else can be ford.

This doesn't cover every detail, but should get you going in the right direction.
 

Last edited by mtflat; Oct 20, 2006 at 12:36 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 06:35 AM
  #4  
4tl8ford's Avatar
4tl8ford
Post Fiend
20 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 7,493
Likes: 7
From: Erie, pa
Here is a link to an adaptop that should fit your engine and use the Ford WC T-5.
http://www.ford-y-block.com/yblockpage.htm

As Tim stated the Ford T-5 is Tailshaft is longer but can be changed to a shorter S-10 T-5 with Mech. Speedo.
 
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 07:53 AM
  #5  
ALBUQ F-1's Avatar
ALBUQ F-1
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 27,290
Likes: 1,055
From: NM
The holy grail in terms of shifter position is the Astro Van T-5, which has the shifter virtually dead on in the position of a 48-52 3-sp. Naturally, not many people bought an Astro with stick shift, so they are rare (I've never seen one for sale or at the boneyard).

One question I've never seen answered (need to check out Dick's link) is what you do for a rear tranny support on the '53-on trucks, that have the bellhousing support for the engine. You end up with three engine/trans mount locations, which is generally not desirable from an engineering standpoint. (You can't determine which support is carrying what load)

No question that the '53-on are a breeze to install a T-5 in, compared to the 48-52.
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:25 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-3
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-5
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-7
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE