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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Hard Starting 7.3

I've been having intermittent problems starting the 2000 7.3 for the last two weeks or so. It hasn't really been that cold, down to mid-twenties at the lowest. Batteries seem good, can get it to spin over plenty but just won't fire off. I'll get a cough maybe 4 out of 5-6 times, then nothing for a couple tries. I've changed oil and filter, air and fuel filters. When it is running, I also get an occaisional wiff of diesel in the cab, even when it's warmed up. I'm lost on this, do I maybe have some glow plugs out, or getting week? Any other ideas? Help!
 
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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When cranking, do you see any smoke coming out of the tailpipe? White smoke, perhaps?
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 06:22 AM
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On cold nights, (under 40 deg F), it's a good idea to use the block heater. Also, have you considered an anti gel product like Howes Deisel Treat?
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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On cold nights, (under 40 deg F), it's a good idea to use the block heater. Also, have you considered an anti gel product like Howes Deisel Treat?
Best advice you can get! It's starting to get down to the clouding point at nights now. 8 ounces of howes (or other anti-gel) per tank will keep you fluid!
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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Thanks folks, yes, white smoke while cranking, I had been missing the Diesel Klean over the spring and summer. I did run some last tank, it did start.......

Got it on my list to pick up at wallyworld today when I'm in town. I've never seen the "Howe's" where can you find that? Or, is it pretty much like Diesel Klean?

Last night I finally set up my timer/extension cord to plug in, guess that will be the drill from now on. Even this morning, hard start. Finally I cycled the glow plugs three times without cranking, and it fired. I'm just worried about when I head into the high country to ski, and it gets down around or below zero, even plugged in will it start?

Thanks again...........
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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Sounds like your glow plug relay, GPR, is gone or going, when it goes, it goes, had to replace the one on my 02 7.3, I would suggest getting it replaced soon! Starters are fairly pricey and I think the GPR is cheaper....
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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The howes can be found at truck stops
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fatswany
Thanks folks, yes, white smoke while cranking...

Last night I finally set up my timer/extension cord to plug in, guess that will be the drill from now on. Even this morning, hard start. Finally I cycled the glow plugs three times without cranking, and it fired. I'm just worried about when I head into the high country to ski, and it gets down around or below zero, even plugged in will it start?

Thanks again...........
The white smoke indicates that it is getting fuel. Once you get it to start, does it seem to run rough like it's only running on a few cylinders for a few minutes, and then clear up? Or does it seem to idle properly after you finally get it started.

If rough for a few mins, I'd say glow plugs. If not, GPR.

You can check my sig, there's a thread called 7.3 Hard starting, etc. with a lot of good info including changing the GPR and part numbers and all that good stuff.

You should definitely plug it in every night until you get the GPR fixed (if that's what it is), and then still plug in if it's colder, as it'll just make the cold starts easier on the engine.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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Once it fires, it idles out right away. I'll pop for a GPR and the ease of installing first. The tip about jumping across the relay, is that legit? If so I'll try tomorrow, if a regular try doesn't work. But, I think you've pointed me down the right track. Autozone has them? I'm sure that would be cheaper than the Stealership.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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Yeah, autozone has the gpr. You can use the one for the OBS style trucks... I think it mentions the details in that thread in my sig.

Yeah the screwdriver trick should be a good way to tell: hold it so the metal part contacts across the relay for however long it recommended and that should activate the glow plugs if the relay is not working as it should. If it starts up fine after doing that, I'd say it's gpr.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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Definetely the GPR. Tried to start, nada, left the key on, jumpered the relay, when I did that, I could here the relay start clicking, held it for 8-10 seconds, fired right up. Unpluged the beast for a few hours and did the same thing all over again. I'll be picking up a relay today when in town. Thanks for the help Ryan, and others. Again, this site comes through, it rocks.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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OK, had a rough week, picked up the Autozone relay, MR99, it it is similar, but not exactly the same. Is there polarity on the different studs? It appears that there is a - on one side of the small posts. Don't want to toast it out of the box. Ideas? Expertise? Thanks Ryan.

Tim
 
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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Is that the gpr-109 you got? That's the gpr for the old body style trucks, but it'll work on the newer body style fine. I believe you have to rotate it 90* from how the old one is installed.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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No it's the MR-99, from Autozone. But your right, it's just off 90 degreess, I just wanted to make sure it didn't mattter, if there was a polarity arrangment. I'll give her a whirls, getting tired of jumping the old one to get it started after it cools off. Thanks.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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I've had problems very similar to "fatswany".... as the weather is getting colder my '03 7.3L is slow to start. Today it wouldn't start even once the sun came out and warmed it up a little. I replaced air filter, changed oil, and added diesel, all to no avail. I've never worked on a car before. This is my first diesel. How hard is it to replace the GPR or glow plugs myself? Does anyone know of a good "how to" resource on the web?
 
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