Need Help with Weight Ratings
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Tuned
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From: Apache, OK
Need Help with Weight Ratings
Since I am retired, my 2006 F350 Dually, CC, 4WD. 6.0L just sits there doing nothing. I decided to do hotshot and oil field hauling and delivery – but when I tried to find out just how much my truck can carry and/or haul, I got several different answers.
Plate on inside of door post says Front Axle rated at 6,000 lbs and Rear Axle rated at 9,000 lbs, but GVWR is 13,000 lbs.
Tire decal just below this plate says max of 4,804 lbs combined passengers, cargo, etc.
Truck is registered in Texas and registration papers say GVWR of 9,000 lbs. and empty weight of 7,000 lbs, meaning it is rated to haul 2,000 lbs.
Owner’s manual says GCWR with 4.10 is 23,500 lbs.
Texas Dept of Trans says I don’t need CDL if GCWR is less than 26,000 lbs so I am OK there.
Does anyone know:
How many lbs can I carry in the 8’ bed?
How heavy of a trailer can I pull?
How do I document this?
Plate on inside of door post says Front Axle rated at 6,000 lbs and Rear Axle rated at 9,000 lbs, but GVWR is 13,000 lbs.
Tire decal just below this plate says max of 4,804 lbs combined passengers, cargo, etc.
Truck is registered in Texas and registration papers say GVWR of 9,000 lbs. and empty weight of 7,000 lbs, meaning it is rated to haul 2,000 lbs.
Owner’s manual says GCWR with 4.10 is 23,500 lbs.
Texas Dept of Trans says I don’t need CDL if GCWR is less than 26,000 lbs so I am OK there.
Does anyone know:
How many lbs can I carry in the 8’ bed?
How heavy of a trailer can I pull?
How do I document this?
Elder User
Joined: Sep 2006
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From: Lincoln, NE
I'll take a stab.
The GVWR is what Ford says the vehicle can weigh. At 13K, thats the manufacturers take on it. The 4804 perplexes me a little. Your truck probably weighs more than 8196; I have an 01 SRW and I scale 9700 only when I get out of the truck and I need fuel. But that's the best bet - go scale it.
I suspect the registration papers pertain only to what the state is charging you for, and you can change that. You'll pay more to the DMV, but thats life. I'm tagged at 11 tons.
The GCWR includes trailer, so if you hit 13K on the truck, then the trailer can't exceed 10500. Keep in mind if you're doing it for any kind of business you need DOT tags over 10000, which you basically are at by only adding a hitch and ball :-)
State to state, rules vary on how you pay taxes on registering vehicles, trailers, and weight. Here, the trailer only gets tags. The weight is all paid on the tow vehicle (because it's more that way). So you may have to get tagged on the truck at 12 tons, but again, best to call your DMV and ask.
Once that piece of paper says you're registered at and paying for that weight, you're pretty much good to go. And if you cross state lines, you need a federal DOT #, not just a state one.
The GVWR is what Ford says the vehicle can weigh. At 13K, thats the manufacturers take on it. The 4804 perplexes me a little. Your truck probably weighs more than 8196; I have an 01 SRW and I scale 9700 only when I get out of the truck and I need fuel. But that's the best bet - go scale it.
I suspect the registration papers pertain only to what the state is charging you for, and you can change that. You'll pay more to the DMV, but thats life. I'm tagged at 11 tons.
The GCWR includes trailer, so if you hit 13K on the truck, then the trailer can't exceed 10500. Keep in mind if you're doing it for any kind of business you need DOT tags over 10000, which you basically are at by only adding a hitch and ball :-)
State to state, rules vary on how you pay taxes on registering vehicles, trailers, and weight. Here, the trailer only gets tags. The weight is all paid on the tow vehicle (because it's more that way). So you may have to get tagged on the truck at 12 tons, but again, best to call your DMV and ask.
Once that piece of paper says you're registered at and paying for that weight, you're pretty much good to go. And if you cross state lines, you need a federal DOT #, not just a state one.
Lead Driver
Joined: Sep 2006
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From: Cartersville, Ga
Conventionally, you can tow 15k (on the bumper). With a fifth-wheel, it is 15,600. I assume you don't have the tow boss package b/c of the 4.10 rearend. The GVWR is 13,000 pounds. You are able to haul 5,200lbs in the bed. All of this on the ford website. It allows you to view the ratings for every configuration ford makes. And remember, they dont figure in all the weight you may have added to the truck. So whatever your truck weighs, just subtract from 13k.
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Joined: Dec 2003
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From: Arizona
Jim McCarty,
Go to your local Certified Scale at any truck stop and weigh your truck with a full tank of fuel, and all the equipment you normally carry along with you in the truck. Just tell the person operating the scale it is a private weighing. It will cost no more than $10. They will give you the total truck weight plus the weight on each axle.
From this information you can determine how much weight you can carry, your truck cannot exceed the GVWR set by the manufacture, in this case 13,000 lbs. minus your trucks weight. Now you must also pay attention to the load on each axle. You cannot exceed the axle weight rating set by the manufacture either. So if when loaded you reach the GAWR before you reach the GVWR then you must stop adding weight at that point.
As for tire weight rating, each tire has max load carrying capacity stamped on the side wall, you cannot exceed the load on the tires either. So which ever max capacity you reach first that is the weight limit you can carry on your truck.
The rear axle weight rating is 9000Lbs and you have a dually so each rear tire would be carrying 2250 lbs of weight if the weight on the rear axle was 9000lbs. The front axle weight rating means that each tire would have be carrying 3000lbs if you had 6000 lbs on the front axle. So as long as each tire has a higher weight rating than this, (and most do) the tires will not be your limiting factor.
GCWR is the max load of truck, tailer and load. Again the first limiting factor you reach, GVWR, GAWR, Max tire load or GCWR is your limiting factor.
As far as the legalities of running for hire, they vary from state to state for intrastate travel if you are under 26,001 lbs. However interstate travel falls under federal rules and then you will have to have a DOT number i believe and other guidelines fall in to play.
Okay clear as mud
The tech folder is down right now for repairs or i would link you to good info there.
Hope this helps
Go to your local Certified Scale at any truck stop and weigh your truck with a full tank of fuel, and all the equipment you normally carry along with you in the truck. Just tell the person operating the scale it is a private weighing. It will cost no more than $10. They will give you the total truck weight plus the weight on each axle.
From this information you can determine how much weight you can carry, your truck cannot exceed the GVWR set by the manufacture, in this case 13,000 lbs. minus your trucks weight. Now you must also pay attention to the load on each axle. You cannot exceed the axle weight rating set by the manufacture either. So if when loaded you reach the GAWR before you reach the GVWR then you must stop adding weight at that point.
As for tire weight rating, each tire has max load carrying capacity stamped on the side wall, you cannot exceed the load on the tires either. So which ever max capacity you reach first that is the weight limit you can carry on your truck.
The rear axle weight rating is 9000Lbs and you have a dually so each rear tire would be carrying 2250 lbs of weight if the weight on the rear axle was 9000lbs. The front axle weight rating means that each tire would have be carrying 3000lbs if you had 6000 lbs on the front axle. So as long as each tire has a higher weight rating than this, (and most do) the tires will not be your limiting factor.
GCWR is the max load of truck, tailer and load. Again the first limiting factor you reach, GVWR, GAWR, Max tire load or GCWR is your limiting factor.
As far as the legalities of running for hire, they vary from state to state for intrastate travel if you are under 26,001 lbs. However interstate travel falls under federal rules and then you will have to have a DOT number i believe and other guidelines fall in to play.
Okay clear as mud
The tech folder is down right now for repairs or i would link you to good info there.
Hope this helps
Jäger
Joined: Jan 2005
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From: Northern Arizona
What he said! I've used Cat Scales and they have been good. They have 104 locations in Texas. www.catscale.com/
