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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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I am in the process of installing my MII front suspension. Before I started, I took my frame to a shop in town to have it straightened, because at some point in its 53 year history, it was in a fender bender. They straightened it out and it looked good. BUT, as I was taking measurements for the MII crossmember, it turns our the frame is not square. The side to side measurements are good, but diagonally, it is off. The measurements differ about 1/8" over 42".
Is this something to fuss over? I can square the crossmember, but then that will be the only thing square on the frame. Or should I square it with the rear end. I'm at a loss............
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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I'm not an expert but my suggestion would be to drop a plumb-bob to the center of the axles, mark the frame and square from those four points. Of course if there is wear in the spring hangers, it could throw off your measurements. To counter that you may want to measure your center axle marks (on the frame rail) to a known reference on the same frame rail and compare right side to left side to make sure to your correct, then square the frame.
 

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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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I wouldn't be too alarmed at a 1/8 inch difference...even a 1/4 inch. These old trucks were not made to exact specs to begin with.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Huntsman
I'm not an expert but my suggestion would be to drop a plumb-bob to the center of the axles, mark the frame and square from those four points. Of course if there is wear in the spring hangers, it could throw off your measurements. To counter that you may want to measure your center axle marks (on the frame rail) to a known reference on the same frame rail and compare right side to left side to make sure to your correct, then square the frame.
My front bumper dips down a touch on the driver side, and I'd like to check the frame to make sure it's square before attempting my MII setup....how....exactly....do I set up your plumb bob trick?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Thanks guys

I kind of thought I might be splitting hairs on the 1/8". After all, its not a racecar!
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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It seems a bit silly to be chasing after 1/8". Most frame shops would probably tell you that was well within their "tolerance". Heck, some shops would be lucky to get it that close!!!
 
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Randy Jack
It seems a bit silly to be chasing after 1/8". Most frame shops would probably tell you that was well within their "tolerance". Heck, some shops would be lucky to get it that close!!!
AMEN, 1/8 of an inch is plenty good, if you are really picky you could square it with a come along before welding
 
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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Well, I went with what I had and welded the crosssmember in. Used a big ratchet strap to pull it together. Just for kicks, I meassured it again and BINGO, its square now! Well within 1/16" anyway. Good enough for me!
 
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My son is taking frame straightening classes right now for his auto collision degree. He says anything that's body on frame they get to withing 1/4", and that's within spec. Back in the seventies, I would see new cars come in for their first alignment that were 1/4 to 1/2" out, without any collision damage. Sounds like you're pretty straight.
 
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