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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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Well guys....my tranny O/D light problems have been solved...now to the airbag which seems to be next.

The passenger off light stays on, and sometimes the dash light blinks 25...other times no warning light at all while the passenger off light stays lit...Gotta be a wire or loose connection somewhere huh? Anyone know what a code 25 is? I tried searching for that code listing that I saw a while back..I must have overlooked it.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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sorry...forgot...it's a 1998
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Code 25 (Don't be fooled by the title):
Air Bag Light Flashes 53

Links to other codes in this thread:
Air bag light is on

Sounds like the bulb in your Passenger Airbag Deactivation switch is dead or the switch is malfunctioning. I didn't read your post about the OD light, but if you or someone was working under the dash, someone could have unplugged the PAD module and forgotten to plug it back in. That happened to me when I replaced my heater plenum and the light came on.

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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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If its the bulb in the PAD, here's how to fix it: (from an earlier post of mine)

I had an airbag fault 2-7, which means that the little light that indicates that the passenger airbag is off wasn't working. I did a search and found that the only way Ford helps you with this is to sell you a new passenger airbag disable module for several hundred dollars. I didn't like that answer, so I decided to see if I could replace the light. Turns out you can, and its not too hard:

0. Disconnect the negative battery cable and wait at least 1 minute.
1. Remove the ashtray.
2. Pop off the cover over the passenger airbag light. It just snaps on with a couple of prongs.
3. Remove the 4 screws that hold in the ashtray track. The assembly has 2 tabs that align it - they may hold it in place somewhat, so gently pry it away from the dash. This will bring the passenger airbag disable (PAD) box with it.
4. Disconnect the electrical connector to the PAD.
5. Remove 2 screws from the bottom of the PAD, and remove it from the ashtray track.
6. Gently pry the cover off the PAD. Inside, you will find a circuit card that is connected to the electrical connector. This circuit card has a little light soldered to it. Lift it out of the PAD for access.
7. I bought a new light at Radio Shack, their number 272-334, which is a 12VDC, 65mA green light with solder leads. Unsolder the old, dead light and solder in the new light. (Test it to make sure it works before you reassemble.)
8. Assembly is the reverse of the above.

The system now works fine, and the only difference from stock is that the light I found is green instead of yellow. (Its possible that at a larger Radio Shack store they would have a yellow one, but the store I was at only had this one.)

I think if it fails again, I'll probably just solder in a resister, because I don't really care about the light, and the system just needs to detect current flowing in that circuit for it to pass the startup diagnostic.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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nah...the light works fine...it actually stays on, even though the PAD is in the activated position. It must be a wire disconnected, or a dead switch. Sucks too, because I have never turned it off...haha. Anyone have a diagram, or some instructions on where to look for the dead/disconnected wire?
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rubydist
If its the bulb in the PAD, here's how to fix it: (from an earlier post of mine)

I had an airbag fault 2-7, which means that the little light that indicates that the passenger airbag is off wasn't working. I did a search and found that the only way Ford helps you with this is to sell you a new passenger airbag disable module for several hundred dollars. I didn't like that answer, so I decided to see if I could replace the light. Turns out you can, and its not too hard:

0. Disconnect the negative battery cable and wait at least 1 minute.
1. Remove the ashtray.
2. Pop off the cover over the passenger airbag light. It just snaps on with a couple of prongs.
3. Remove the 4 screws that hold in the ashtray track. The assembly has 2 tabs that align it - they may hold it in place somewhat, so gently pry it away from the dash. This will bring the passenger airbag disable (PAD) box with it.
4. Disconnect the electrical connector to the PAD.
5. Remove 2 screws from the bottom of the PAD, and remove it from the ashtray track.
6. Gently pry the cover off the PAD. Inside, you will find a circuit card that is connected to the electrical connector. This circuit card has a little light soldered to it. Lift it out of the PAD for access.
7. I bought a new light at Radio Shack, their number 272-334, which is a 12VDC, 65mA green light with solder leads. Unsolder the old, dead light and solder in the new light. (Test it to make sure it works before you reassemble.)
8. Assembly is the reverse of the above.

The system now works fine, and the only difference from stock is that the light I found is green instead of yellow. (Its possible that at a larger Radio Shack store they would have a yellow one, but the store I was at only had this one.)

I think if it fails again, I'll probably just solder in a resister, because I don't really care about the light, and the system just needs to detect current flowing in that circuit for it to pass the startup diagnostic.
You hope it works fine, but you wont know for sure until your AB fails or blows up when you dont need it. Tinkering with the switch is foolish in my opinion when the new one only costs $65.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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You hope it works fine, but you wont know for sure until your AB fails or blows up when you dont need it. Tinkering with the switch is foolish in my opinion when the new one only costs $65.
Seconded. It stinks that a problem as small as a light bulb or a bad switch could cost $65, but it's not worth the consequences of a malfunction to find out that your fix didn't work. I talked to a guy the other day whose smoke detectors in his house were going off all the time due to humidity. I told him that there was probably dust in them from being up there a while, and when he takes a shower, the humidity is enough to trip the sensor. I recommended that he replace them all (they are wired into the house) since each one is only $11 or so and he only has 3. He opted to buy a can of compressed air to blow them out. Oh well, at least he doesn't have any kids in the house.

I agree that's it's not the light (since that appears to be a 27). As I remember, the module is pretty simple to change, although I was taking the entire dashboard off at the time, so that my be a "relative" simple.

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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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I took the cover off, and removed the ashtray, and it looks like the module should just come right out...is this correct? looks like just two screws. Anyone know a good place to buy the part, or have a part number I can search for? Thanks!
 
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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hey guys...I looked on NAPA, AutoZone, and Advanced's websites, and I can't find the switch module...is this something I am going to have to order from the dealership? I also found a website saying those modules were actually recalled on my years truck model....any truth to that? Thanks!
 
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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They are dealer only items. Don't know about the recall.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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Apparently no on the recall...I guess I will try disconnecting the module, cleaning the connectors, and reconnecting to see if that works, if not...I suppose I will re-order the module....Thanks guys..will update when fixed.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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If its the bulb in the PAD, here's how to fix it: (from an earlier post of mine)

I had an airbag fault 2-7, which means that the little light that indicates that the passenger airbag is off wasn't working. I did a search and found that the only way Ford helps you with this is to sell you a new passenger airbag disable module for several hundred dollars. I didn't like that answer, so I decided to see if I could replace the light. Turns out you can, and its not too hard:

0. Disconnect the negative battery cable and wait at least 1 minute.
1. Remove the ashtray.
2. Pop off the cover over the passenger airbag light. It just snaps on with a couple of prongs.
3. Remove the 4 screws that hold in the ashtray track. The assembly has 2 tabs that align it - they may hold it in place somewhat, so gently pry it away from the dash. This will bring the passenger airbag disable (PAD) box with it.
4. Disconnect the electrical connector to the PAD.
5. Remove 2 screws from the bottom of the PAD, and remove it from the ashtray track.
6. Gently pry the cover off the PAD. Inside, you will find a circuit card that is connected to the electrical connector. This circuit card has a little light soldered to it. Lift it out of the PAD for access.
7. I bought a new light at Radio Shack, their number 272-334, which is a 12VDC, 65mA green light with solder leads. Unsolder the old, dead light and solder in the new light. (Test it to make sure it works before you reassemble.)
8. Assembly is the reverse of the above.

The system now works fine, and the only difference from stock is that the light I found is green instead of yellow. (Its possible that at a larger Radio Shack store they would have a yellow one, but the store I was at only had this one.)

I think if it fails again, I'll probably just solder in a resister, because I don't really care about the light, and the system just needs to detect current flowing in that circuit for it to pass the startup diagnostic.
Had this problem on my 98 Ranger, fix worked like a charm . Thanks.
 
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