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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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wiper -motor and switch compatability...

Understanding that I need a 2-sp motor and switch to convert my stock 1-speed in my '66 F-250, what years motor/switch will work? If other year motors than '66 will bolt in, it would sure expand my search area...
 
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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I used the motor and switch from my 76 donor, then subbed the switch with a delay switch. I am pretty sure that you have to exchange the arm on the end of the motor with your existing to make it park in the right place.

It's been a while.

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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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The motors are found in any pickup with the motor inside the cowel. The switch turns two clicks to the right and one to the left. The easiest way to tell is look for the big red connector on the back side of the switch. The pivot arm off your old motor must be moved over to the two speed motor. Get the wiring harness for the two speed motor and the variable relay if you can find one. I wrote a more detailed technical article and posted it in the tech section. Someone else also wrote a similiar article so read both. Post back with questions. Real easy swap!
 
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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I did mine with a 74 unit with delay,, the only thing I had to change was the switch stem was too long so I had to cut it off. Easy swap.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 06:02 AM
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wait a minute, I have a motor right here...

I found a wiper motor I bought over a year ago as a spare, it is stamped as a '66 assembly. Did they make 2-speed motors in '66? It's part # is C6ZF-17504-A.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Bosch American was the supplier of two speed wiper motors for Ford in 64-66. If yours has that information painted on it along with the PN then it is a two speed unit. These required a matching switch and harness. Best bet is the upgrade we are all talking about. If you have a NOS single speed motor it may be worth something on E-Bay? The upgrade looks totally stock until you turn it on in the delay mode. Two speed and variable delay is really nice if you use your truck as a commuter. These have a push to wash feature as well. Complete bolt in deal except for shortening the switch stem. Carpenter sells the **** with set screw.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Thanks, guys.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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wiper motor wiring question

I took another look at the motor I had laying around and also the switch I bought to go with it.

The motor has (4) wires coming from it, as well as a seperate black one that I assume is ground. The motor gear housing has a plug receptacle with (I think) 2 male prongs.

The switch has 2 positions, and I THINK like 8 male prongs on the backside.

I remember somebody here saying that if the motor has 4 wires, it's a 2-speed.

I would like to bench-test the motor, and with a continuity tester, verify the function of the switch.

Can anybody tell me which wire combinations will power the motor at it's 2 speeds?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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That motor you have there is a 66 Mustang wiper motor. THe part number is C6ZZ 17508-A. It doesn't technically fit a truck.

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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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Barry:

Thanks for the sobering news. That part number you listed, it doesn't match the one I listed; are you saying both numbers are Mustang numbers and should be avoided?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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What you listed is a Ford engineering number, not a part number. It's what the engineers at Ford Identify the part for production. When it goes into the parts system, it recieves a part number. What I listed is the part number. In My 65-72 Ford car parts book, it lists the engineering numbers to actual part numbers. I then look at the applications to verify. It doesn't appear in the truck catalogs. I recognized the number you posted because I was big into 65-66 Mustangs in the 70's. Owned quite a few back then. What I'm saying is it's not a direct replacement for your 1 speed motor. You should look for number such as ...

C7TZ 17508-D= C8TF 17c434-A
C7TF 17504-A,B,D
C8TF 17504-A
D2TF 17504-AA
C7TF 17c504-A,B
C6TF 17b571-A
C6TF 17b571-G
C6TF 17504-E

DOTZ 17508-A= C4TF 17504-D
C4TF 17504-A
C4TF 17B571-E
C4TF 17B571-G

I listed the part number, followed by the engineering number that identify the motors.
The DOTZ-A motor fits alot of years and is still available new. You can get a rebuilt one thru many parts stores. Hope the helps.

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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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There one on Ebay, #180031925059 .From a 69 truck. It has the motor, linkage and wiring. Starts pretty cheap.

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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 06:12 AM
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Geeze this is so not complicated! Get a motor from a 70-79 any truck, it has the wiring attached. Shorten the shaft, add a new button form Carpenter, connect it to a hot and you are finished. If you want a delay plug in a variable relay. The best part is that this swap is undetctable until you turn on the wipers. Read the technical article I posted here.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 06:39 AM
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Thanks William, You are right on, we shouldn't make it so. It is almost plug and play.

John
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 07:03 AM
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Didn't mean to start a science project...

...I was just wondering if the motor I bought long ago was a 2-speed, and how to bench-test it.

And I'll have to THANK Barry for his in-depth coverage of a plug-and-play subject, because now I won't be fooled by someone selling a truck motor that's REALLY a Mustang motor.

Thanks again to all, I for one will stop flogging this horse.
 
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