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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Don't believe?

I have a brand new F350 4x4 crew cab srw sb and my 2006 Sunnybrook Brookside fifth wheel sits to low to the ground to tow it level. Can't flip the axles cause they are already flipped.
Not one Ford dealer in my area has a clue about dropping rear end by replacing 4 inch for 2 inch rubber spacers at axle. So they won't do it cause they can't find any info from Ford saying they can.
Hooked up my new fifth wheel sits 10 higher in front than the back. Bed clearance is 51/2 in at tailgate and 63/4 in at pin location.
Seventy thousand dollar nightmare and I ain't spending more to void warranty on trailer or truck
Don't know what to do from here.
Wish I had my Ranger and frigging tent back so I wouldn't have all these problems.
If anyone has any suggestions or input on how nose high you can tow safely, I'm all ears.

All you people looking to buy a fifth wheel, learn from my stupid mistakes and don't believe much of what you read and nothing any salesman tells you.

First before you shop, load your truck with wife, kids, dog, fuel, cookies and anything else you might put in your truck to take a trip.
Second, go to truck stop and weigh your truck..five to eight bucks, can save you thousands.
Now you know truly what your truck weights against your truck load limit. You may be surprised to find you can't tow near as much weight as you thought.
If you are set on a fifth wheel and you now know how much pin weight your truck can handle, start by looking for fiver you like and then look at supposed pin weight. About 22% of gross trailer weight will be pin weight. Some a little less, some a little more.
Tell salesperson upfront you will not sign any deal until weights are confirmed and you see how it sits with your truck. If they don't want to abide by this, you will be money ahead in the long run.
Use gross trailer weight as your guide.
Have fifth wheel hitch installed based on how much you can safely tow. Don't go over as you and your family's safety are more important than just a little bit bigger fith wheel.
If weight checks out on paper, hook truck to fifth wheel and see how she sits. Trailer and truck level or close enough to be adjusted out and still have bed rail Clearance?
If it does, on to the scales to confirm weights on truck, rear axle and trailer weight.



If it all works out, have a great time with the new camper
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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Flajoker I had the same problem to a lesser degree with my rig. Investigation of how they built it provided the answer that I needed. There are several different places that the leaf springs for the trailer are mounted to that are of differing heights. When I picked up my trailer all the springs were mounted on the highest holes which made the trailer ride the lowest. What I ended up doing was to relocate all the leaf spring mounts to the lowest holes which raised the ride height about 3 - 4 inches. I then had to lower the 5th wheel hitch to it's lowest position and raise the pin box to it's highest position. I don't have a pickup, but rather a chassis cab with strong boxes on each side, and there is more than 12" of clearance between the bottom of the trailer and the top of the boxes so clearance is not an issue for me. I hope that you are able to use this same procedure and not have clearance issues.
If you aren't able to find a good way to level out the trailer, you will find accellorated tire wear on the rears because of having to carry more than thier share of the load. I am on my second set of tires now because of it before I leveled out the ride of the trailer.
Hope this helps.
Picture of my rig for reference.
http://home.comcast.net/~2kwikkordead/riglink.jpg
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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would smaller tires on the tow rig help?
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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The leaf springs are attached to 3in tabs welded to frame.. no adjustment
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Hi flajoker,

The 4" (metal) blocks on your F350 rear can be removed. This is what
I did on mine (2004 longbox) to drop the rear end enough to handle a
low profile 5th wheel. All you need is new U bolts. Some people get
the 2" blocks from an F250 to replace for a 2" approx drop, but by the
sounds of it you need all the room you can get.

See my gallery for before/after pics of my rear blocks (under 'new truck')
amongst other things.

I recollect there was a Ford TSB on the 4" blocks a while back. Lets' see,
there's:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/full...hp?tsb=99-14-5

(tsb 99-14-5 - Ford has been aware of it since 1999, and the trucks
certainly haven't getten any lower since then :-)

Best of luck - if your dealer isn't aware of that TSB, then just find a dealer
that's in the know.

(also, flipping the 5th wheel springs raises it's center of gravity, and it
could make it unstable; not something I would do).
 
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