A.M.E.N. Mike, this is my fear, that they will release a new truck to have it fall on its face like the 6.0 did when it first came out (still having problems by the way). Actually, if you look across internet at all the boards and even here about the 6.0, most are not happy. I am a Ford fan but even more than that i am a fan of quality. Remember when that was job 1? I find myself saying "man, what the [Edited by kw5413] is going on at Ford these days"?. I have had two "bad apples" of trucks - both 6.0 liter F-350's. One was a buyback and the one i have now i live with but it aint right and it gripes my [Edited by kw5413] to pay that several hundred dollars per month and it not be 100%.

I know this, the guys at Ford can't be screwing around - the Japanese auto and now TRUCK makers are just waiting to each their lunch. Like i said, i'm a diehard but lets get real. If it dont work, it aint to long til its bye bye - that goes for any company with any product.

[Edited by kw5413]me off that the guys in detroit think this way and let the crap out the door. By golly, Let me have a "few growing pains" on one of my biggger jobs, as a small contractor - i'd be gone in a heartbeat!

I happen to be good friends with the Salespeople and managers and owners at the dealership that i do business at and these problems with the trucks ain't personal but it sure does put these guys in a bind when they see me at the dealership more than they do on the deck of their porch or mine having a cold one.

Speaking of a cold one.....

 

Sorry pimt1ton "even here about the 6.0, most are not happy" you are incorrect … not to mention you have no clue about what you type.

You say most are not happy, what are your metrics that you have used to make this statement. What statistical analysis software or “clip board” are you using and most important tell me your sampling rate. There are over 1 million 60hs out there, PLEASE describe the process you used to reduce the data you collected.

I anxiously await your next post. I am most interested in how un-happy most if not all 6oh owners are

 

Its called a S.W.A.G. method. After owning 4, 1999 model year and up F-350 Trucks, An Excursion, Two Epeditions, 15 plus other FORD trucks from 1974 to 1999 and an E-350 Van, several other Ford cars and being employed in the automotive industry for 12 plus years working closely with OEM's over those years and most recently hearing their own gripes and concerns about the 6.0 engine and the automotive industry as a whole - Did i mention i am very good friends with the people that are working with and for Ford, i think i did. I'M ENTITLED TO USE THE SWAG METHOD.

You check the recall section of this web site. You check the buyback statistics on Ford Trucks with the 6.0 liter engine.
I dont care how many are out there. How much bad publicity does it take before a company is severly, negatively impacted - ask Suzuki, i bet they can tell you 1 day, 1 article.

If you want to be so critical of my high level of expectations from Ford on $45,000.00 + trucks, LETS SEE, what methods and analysis can you submit to say different? PLEASE, be SPECIFIC.

Being a family site and you being a moderator, i am suprised at your post and the very personal way in which you respond to mine.

Don't worry though, i don't hold a grudge - at least the first few times, like i said, i currently own a 2005 6.0 liter F-350 4x4 CC LWB and i still throw good money at it - reflexxion hood with painted black stripes, Banks intercooler, monster exhaust, Six gun, Speed Loader, Pioneer AVIC-N1 head unit, 1200 watts in amps and speakers, spray in bedliner, Chrome door handles, Stainless accents, bedrails, tinted windows and the list goes on. But can you believe, probably not, that i run stock wheels and have replaced my tires with the stock replacement to maintain the load rating?

Also, I pull between 8-12,000 lbs back and forth on a 517 mile run quite often. My 2005 truck has over 60,000 miles already. How many does yours have?

Hopefully you are going to provide a statistical analysis of all the posts recieved in this thread for us all to see. Hope that you are able to point out with Certainty that my view is [Edited by kw5413] and that my own experiences have been "rare occurances".

If you can, i guess that would be the final straw in convincing me to go ahead and take another chance and order that 2008 dually CC from Ford.

Please respond, i now await your post.

 

Reads to me like you used the B.A.R.F. 6.0s method. (Bash All Remaining Ford 6.0s)

Comments like "if you look across internet at all the boards and even here about the 6.0, most are not happy" destroys credibility that you haven't even established here.

The people you know and the amount of Ford products you have owned mean nothing to many 6.0 satisfied people that could drive circles around you and your connections.

While most recognize that the 6.0 has had problematic design issues...to label most owners as being unhappy is ludicrous and childish at best.

And BTW, please read our site guidelines. Especially those referencing language.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/guidelines.html</WMFILTERED>

 

I apologize to the group as i referred to (username) Tim Lamkin incorrectly.Tim Lankin is an Administrator and NOT a moderator as i typed in a previous message. This is of course referring to the sig line where it says the users, username and directly located underneath the username in smaller but quite legible type different from that which is above which is blue and this type is black. I have checked all relevant codes and interviewed others within my own immediate surroundings that have helped me to determine that i did in fact did quote the title or status incorrectly. 4 out of five said that i did. This results in an 80% consensus that i was incorrect. I have submitted changes to be recogized in this message that should overturn the previously conceived notion that Tim Lamkin is a moderator and it is, although not with 100% certainty - but with 80% as detailed on my study clipboard true that i was incorrect.

In Summary there is a 20% opinion that it should read something else entirely .

 

Pimt1ton---I am sorry that you are having troubles, and quite possibly in your area there may be multiple failures. Around here, there quite literally isnt any trouble with the 6.0. But it would be irresponsible for me to say that there is no trouble anywhere else. It is the same thing as what you are doing. We as techs also have a message board on the ford site, most of the problems are regional. So one would have to ask, how can this happen? In my opinion, fuel distribution is the only thing that would do this. One distributor having a good quality fuel source causing no fuel related issues (egr valves, turbo coking, vanes sticking, head gaskets, overheating). Another fuel distributor not so lucky, having high sulfur levels, poorly refined fuel.

 

hmmm, what does publicity have to do with owner satisfaction?



no offence but your comin' accross as a TROLL.


it you have done as much reading as you claim you would know many of the 6.0's problems are dealer or owner related.

 

I don't like crow but i'll eat it when i'm wrong. My apologies for categorizing the 6.o liter problems as being so widespread.

In fact, i am not privey to the statistics of each and every Ford Dealer in the land (hopefully someone is) and should not comment on such issues that cover such broad geographic and diversity.

I'm here on FTE to help when and if i can and learn a thing or two myslef. Hope this patches things up.

 

It does for me.

Let's move forward.....from here.

 

Ok with me~

 

I bought an '05 in Sept. of that year. Traded in my '03 Dually 6.0 becuase no one wanted it. I thought the '03 was fine (bought in sept. of '03). Some day all the people who hate the 6.0 will wish they had one. I only wish they would bring back the "pilot ignition" that I had on my '03. That was quite the motor, very quiet.
I have a 4 inch exhaust (removed the cat) and an air flow intake. The '03 was straight piped, but the '05 has a aeroflow muffler. Nothing like the turbo whistle. I miss my '03. but I love the interior on the '05 and the coil springs and turning radius on the front suspension.
Only hope Ford can keep it together and the 6.4 does not bankrupt them. I will not spend 8,000 bucks for a diesel option and thought the 5.000 bucks was too much for the 6.0 . Also, if the price of diesel does not go down, no one will buy into a "private" diesel engine option. In '03, the fall of that year, diesel was about $1.25, shame on the oil industry. Diesel is the least expensive to make and they charge the most for it.