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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Pulling a bus

I was driving down the road today and i saw that a school bus full of kids was stuck half way in the mud, i offered to pull them out but the driver said they had someone coming...i REEAAALY wanted to try.. Would I have been able to do it or would i have made a fool of myself? 06 FX4 f250 stock
 
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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I was driving down the road today and i saw that a school bus full of kids was stuck half way in the mud, i offered to pull them out but the driver said they had someone coming...i REEAAALY wanted to try.. Would I have been able to do it or would i have made a fool of myself? 06 FX4 f250 stock
Diesel?? If you have a diesel, you might have been able to. They wouldn't have let you try for insurance reasons though. Think about the fact that they are responsible for all those kids.I have a friend that drives for UPS, same thing happened where I saw him in a ditch last winter. I know I could have pulled him out, but there's a liability issue with their vehicle. The only thing I even bothered offering was a warm seat while we waited for their service truck to arrive.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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Well it depends on how bad the bus was stuck. I pull big stuff all the time of my farm, and I don't have a problem. Now, if the axle was a foot under the clay....then no.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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The way I see it, it depends on how bad he was stuck and how much traction you could get. Unless he was REALLY stuck (up to the frame), I would think that you could do it IF you were on pavement (or compact dirt). If you were on grass....no way. It was probably good they didn't let you. Years ago, I thought I was going to SAVE THE DAY by pulling out a flatbed truck out of the mud with my moderately built Jeep. I hooked up and all I did was spin all 4's and didn't even budge him. Boy did I feel dumb!
 
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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i think u had it! a few weeks ago my budy (works for PG&E) got his f-650 stuck. dont know how much it weighed, but it was fully loaded with tools, welder, and cherry picker. he was in mud i was on pavement. put a big chain from him to my front tow hooks, dropped into 4-low, threw it into reverse and he was out in no time. barley had to touch the pedal!!
 
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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Its a 6.0 , i would have been on pavement they werent stuck too bad, she had went off the side of the road a bit and the bus slid into a ditch with mud about up to the middle of 2 "passenger side" tires
 
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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Bad situation. If she's at an angle, especially with kids on board, and you apply a bunch of force down low, there's always the chance of the bus rolling over (at least, if your ditches are like our ditches). Then you have some serious 'splaining to do.

I won't pull unless it's IDLH or a friend that won't cause me trouble if something bad happens. Then, my rule is... you got stuck (usually in mud)... you get dirty hooking it up. And, tie it to something that isn't going to bend!

That said, I have pulled a 3,000gal. tanker (fire dept.) out of some significant clay, after we offloaded the water, using a '99 F350 PSD 4x4.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 01:14 AM
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i pulled a loaded tanker semi truck and trailer with a half load of gas 2 miles and over a overpass to a truck wash with my f550 tow truck ,i pulled him he stopped me, aint no s..t i swear, not a 6.0 for anyone reading my post obout my junk 6litres, no offences anyone
 
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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Bad situation. If she's at an angle, especially with kids on board, and you apply a bunch of force down low, there's always the chance of the bus rolling over (at least, if your ditches are like our ditches). Then you have some serious 'splaining to do.
Well, you could use that low end grunt to get that bus unstuck, and if it rolls over, you can demonstrate the 0-60 time in the SuperDuty.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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Well, you could use that low end grunt to get that bus unstuck, and if it rolls over, you can demonstrate the 0-60 time in the SuperDuty.
Heh, true...
 
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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Diesel?? If you have a diesel, you might have been able to. They wouldn't have let you try for insurance reasons though. Think about the fact that they are responsible for all those kids.I have a friend that drives for UPS, same thing happened where I saw him in a ditch last winter. I know I could have pulled him out, but there's a liability issue with their vehicle. The only thing I even bothered offering was a warm seat while we waited for their service truck to arrive.
I used to work for UPS and if someone came by with chains and offered to pull it out they were more than welcome to. If you get stuck and requesttow service they already consider it an "accident". Plus all the time you wait for a tow adds to how long you'll be out delivering. Corporate frowns on such methods but up this way with the crummy tires they put on it isn't uncommon to see one stuck in 2" of snow on a flat road at a stop sign.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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I used to work for UPS and if someone came by with chains and offered to pull it out they were more than welcome to. If you get stuck and requesttow service they already consider it an "accident". Plus all the time you wait for a tow adds to how long you'll be out delivering. Corporate frowns on such methods but up this way with the crummy tires they put on it isn't uncommon to see one stuck in 2" of snow on a flat road at a stop sign.
Yea as soon as you call and say you are stuck in the least way they will write it up as an accident. I've pulled my driver out several times in the winter months because my road is so long and narrow they try and back down the road and usually run off the side. I actually gave my driver my cell number and he called just last week, but I was on hitch(work). There is plenty of Bubba's around here that love the chance to use their diesel and 4x4. The first time the driver got stuck his supervisor came out and pulled him out of the mud. I think the supervisors get hit with the same penalities as the drivers. The FedEx guy has never gotten stuck. I've got a piece of plywood up in my driveway that shows how many times(6) the UPS guy has been stuck.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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I used to work for UPS and if someone came by with chains and offered to pull it out they were more than welcome to. If you get stuck and requesttow service they already consider it an "accident".
Weird. My driver and I are pretty good friends, but he's told me that he can't allow someone to help him like that. I wonder if that's more a local thing or something. I may talk to him more about that. I hate to think he's getting written up for something that I could help him out with.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 11:39 PM
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Weird. My driver and I are pretty good friends, but he's told me that he can't allow someone to help him like that. I wonder if that's more a local thing or something. I may talk to him more about that. I hate to think he's getting written up for something that I could help him out with.
It's a corporate rule. On the local level they'll overlook those rules sometimes though cause in the end the job HAS to get done. Another corporate rule is no fuel additives have been approved for use in the trucks. I guarantee Diesel 911 makes it in a few tanks. A story that would leave corporate gritting their teeth is one night all our TT certified drivers had left the building without putting a trailer on one of the docks. Sort supervisor went across the street to FedEx Freight and had one of their drivers hook a UPS tractor up to a trailer and back it up to the dock, lol. Corporate is pretty **** about following the rules but even more so about getting everything where it needs to be when it needs to be there. Power goes out up at the center and you'll see people pushing boxes along the conveyor belt by hand. Multiple times while I was there the building ran out of heating oil at night with -20 temps and bay doors wide open to park the trucks. You earn your money working there.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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I can attest to these guys earning their money...I stopped off one day because I saw a UPS guy sitting up against a tree with his truck parked. I knew something was wrong. He was barely awake. He was suffering from heat exhaustion and just wanted to rest. I drove down to the store and bought him a styrofoam ice chest and some Propel to get him up again. He refused to call an ambulance and I stayed with him until he came back around. He was more worried about running late than his health. He told me he couldn't take the ice chest with him because his supervisor would end up finding out. People think they are over paid mail carriers, but I've seen both UPS and FedEX drivers run themselves to death.
 
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