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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Air bag light blinking

Hello All,

93 Aero, 3.0, 113,000 miles. I let my buddy use my manual so I have no reference. My Air Bag light is blinking, but it is blinking in a pattern of a code, 32. Code 32 is for an EVP or EGR problem. Aero's don't have a EGR do they? Then I ran my codes and came up clean, 111.

Why would the Air Bag light on the dash blink, and appear to send a code?

Thanks,

John
 
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Just did a search, looks like a resistence problem, and most posts point to a clock spring problem. I will check to see if the horn and cruise control works. I checked Auto Zone and Kragen and they do not carry the part.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 03:46 AM
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CEL is for engine problem codes only

Air bag system has separate computer and signals thru the air bag light

clockspring is a common Aero failure

From Ford service cd
CODE 32


Fault Code 32


Drive Side Air Bag High Resistance or Open in Circuit


Circuit Description


Normal Operation

The diagnostic monitor measures the resistance across pin 10 (Circuit 615, GY/W) and pin 11 (Circuit 614, GY/O) every time the ignition switch is turned to the ON position. Normal resistance across these circuits is between 1.5 and 2.0 ohms. This resistance comes from the air bag itself (approximately 1.0 ohms) and the clockspring windings (approximately 0.25 to 0.5 ohms per winding, two windings in all). If the resistance across these two circuits exceeds 4.0 ohms, this indicates a high resistance and the diagnostic monitor will flash code 32.

NOTE:
The connectors for the air bag and the clockspring have metal spring clips that act as shorting bars. These shorting bars are built into the plastic hardshell connectors. The shorting bars are designed to short Circuits 614 and 615 together when the connectors are not mated. Do not attempt to remove the air bag shorting bar and measure the resistance of the air bag.

The clockspring shorting bar may be removed to measure the clockspring resistance. Use extreme care when reinstalling the shorting bar to ensure it is installed correctly.


Possible Causes

Excessive resistance across pins 10 and 11 can be caused by:

1. A poor connection where the clockspring connects into the main wiring harness. The clockspring connector at the base of the steering column may have excessive resistance between the male and female terminals in the connector.

2. An open circuit or high resistance in the clockspring windings inside the clockspring assembly.

3. An open circuit or high resistance in the wiring harness in either Circuit 614 (GY/O) or Circuit 615 (GY/W).

4. An open circuit or high resistance in the driver side air bag. DO NOT attempt a direct resistance measurement of the air bag. Follow the diagnostic procedures to determine if the air bag resistance is higher than normal.

schematic and complete troubleshooting in service cd

several Ford parts stores forum sponsors carry part

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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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Please dont think I'm making fun of this but,
M y air bag light has been blinking as well.
I guess my question is, Does this really hurt anything if not I wasn't going to
Fix it at all and was just going to cover up the stupid blinking light.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by davex
Please dont think I'm making fun of this but,
M y air bag light has been blinking as well.
I guess my question is, Does this really hurt anything if not I wasn't going to
Fix it at all and was just going to cover up the stupid blinking light.
What? Us making fun of each other?

Anyway, it depends on the code it's blinking at you. If it's 32, it's most likely the clockspring, but if it's 51 like what I got, it is just a thermal cut-off fuse that was blown. Easy and cheap to repair in that case.

When the Airbag light is blinking, your airbag is disabled. Could be bad if you get in a severe accident.
 

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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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My concern is will it activate without cause? Is it truly disabled when the light flashes?
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by lv2race
My concern is will it activate without cause? Is it truly disabled when the light flashes?
That's what I got from the service manual.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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most insurance companies now do a diagnostics on any failed safety equipment in injury accidents....they will not pay 100% percent if there is owner's negligence to maintain vehicle safety equipment....badly worn failed brakes, worn torn seatbelts, lights burned out, air bags

in the contract in BOLD print

air bags save the insurance companies 100's of millions in medical claims every year and help to lower all our rates
 
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Hi everyone,

What is the fix for a code of 2 blinks and then 7 blinks. This pattern repeats 4 times and then the light is steady.

Thanks! :-)
Jessica
 
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Welcome ksmom,

hi jessica,

there is no airbag code 27 listed in Ford Service cd's for years 93>97 which I have info for...

see Ford service cd....what year of Aero?
contact your Ford dealer directly for major safety issues like air bags for exact info

Pinpoint Tests

² PINPOINT TEST N: NO AIR BAG INDICATOR -- INOPERATIVE LAMP CIRCUIT OR NO IGNITION VOLTAGE TO AIR BAG DIAGNOSTIC MONITOR (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST C: CONTINUOUS AIR BAG INDICATOR -- AIR BAG DIAGNOSTIC MONITOR DISCONNECTED OR INOPERATIVE (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 12: LOW BATTERY VOLTAGE (CODE 12) (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 13: AIR BAG MODULE OR FRONT AIR BAG PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND (CODE 13) (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 21: SAFING SENSOR NOT MOUNTED TO VEHICLE PROPERLY (CODE 21) (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 22: SAFING SENSOR OUTPUT CIRCUIT SHORTED TO BATTERY VOLTAGE (CODE 22) (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 23: SAFING SENSOR CIRCUIT INPUT FEED/RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN (CODE 23) (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 24: SAFING SENSOR OUTPUT FEED/RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN OR LOW RESISTANCE IN A PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR (CODE 24) (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 32: DRIVER SIDE AIR BAG CIRCUIT HIGH RESISTANCE OR OPEN (CODE 32) (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 33: PASSENGER SIDE AIR BAG CIRCUIT HIGH RESISTANCE OR OPEN (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 34: DRIVER SIDE AIR BAG CIRCUIT LOW RESISTANCE OR SHORTED (CODE 34) (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 35: PASSENGER SIDE AIR BAG CIRCUIT LOW RESISTANCE OR SHORTED (CODE 35) (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 41: PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR CIRCUITS HIGH RESISTANCE OR OPEN (CODE 41) (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 44: RH PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR NOT MOUNTED TO VEHICLE PROPERLY (CODE 44) (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 45: CENTER RADIATOR PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR NOT MOUNTED TO VEHICLE PROPERLY (CODE 45) (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 46: OPEN SPLICE CENTER AIR BAG SENSOR GROUND MONITOR (CODE 46) (Index)

² Air Bag Diagnostic Monitor Internal Thermal Fuse -- Fuse Blown Due to Intermittent Short to Ground

² PINPOINT TEST 52: BACKUP POWER SUPPLY VOLTAGE BOOST FAULT (CODE 52) (Index)

² PINPOINT TEST 53: PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR CIRCUITS RESISTANCE TO GROUND OR AIR BAG DIAGNOSTIC MONITOR FAULT (Index)

² Rapid Continuous Flashing of Air Bag Indicator (No Diagnostic Trouble Code), All Primary Crash Sensors Disconnected


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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Hi Cliff.

Sorry...This is for a 2001 F150. I guess I didn't realize that the codes were different for the same manufacturer but different cars for the airbag. I've done more research and it looks like the error code is produced because the on/off indicator light for the airbag is burned out.

Thanks for the quick and friendly reply. :-)

Jessica
 
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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yes, for many Fords code 27 airbag is a failed PAD switch for the enable/disable child passenger front side switch
Aero does not have a passenger side AB

Originally Posted by ksmom
Hi Cliff.

Sorry...This is for a 2001 F150. I guess I didn't realize that the codes were different for the same manufacturer but different cars for the airbag. I've done more research and it looks like the error code is produced because the on/off indicator light for the airbag is burned out.

Thanks for the quick and friendly reply. :-)

Jessica
 
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ksmom
Hi Cliff.

Sorry...This is for a 2001 F150. I guess I didn't realize that the codes were different for the same manufacturer but different cars for the airbag. I've done more research and it looks like the error code is produced because the on/off indicator light for the airbag is burned out.

Thanks for the quick and friendly reply. :-)

Jessica
Hi Jessica:

Welcome to our FTE forum.

Yes, you would find out we are a very helpful and friendly group. But you have to watch out for 96_4wdr, he's the cranky one of the bunch.
 
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