Notices

holley 600 won't adjust

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:29 PM
  #1  
oldiron's Avatar
oldiron
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 184
Likes: 0
From: Chattanooga US
holley 600 won't adjust

Hey guys;
I've got a '73 bronco with a stock 302/c4. I just recently installed an edelbrock performer intake w/a new holley 600 vac sec. I'm having a problem with the idle mixture screws. I can turn them all the way in to the point where the truck should die but it never changes the idle at all. At first guess I assumed that it had to be a vacuum leak, but I've looked everywhere and found none. The lowest I can make it idle is 650-700 rpm's. I've run propane all over this engine trying to find a leak and there don't seem to be any. Am I missing something? Ideas?
Greg
 
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 05:47 PM
  #2  
ken75ranger's Avatar
ken75ranger
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 819
Likes: 0
From: Troy,NY
How low do you want to go? 700 is fine especially for a c4. What's it idle at in drive with your foot on the brake. Probably 550 rpms. You can only get so low on the idle circuit.
 
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 06:03 PM
  #3  
oldiron's Avatar
oldiron
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 184
Likes: 0
From: Chattanooga US
You'd be correct on the 550 part, but I can't make it go any lower(not that I'd want to) but shouldn't it have the ability to be adjusted to the point that the engine dies? But to update I FINALLY found a vacuum leak around the secondary diaphram on the carb, that and I have 6 degrees of slack in the timing chain. At 10 deg. of initial timing the engine pulls 13 in of vacuum.
I'll change the timing chain this weekend.
Greg
 
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 06:10 PM
  #4  
baddad457's Avatar
baddad457
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 11,141
Likes: 25
From: south louisiana
If the idle mixture screws don't affect the idle speed, you have the throttle blades open too far, uncovering the transfer slots, putting the carb into the transition stage. Close the throttle blades all the way, then try the screws again. If they still don't work, you may have trash in their passages.
 
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 09:53 PM
  #5  
oldiron's Avatar
oldiron
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 184
Likes: 0
From: Chattanooga US
The throttle blades are completely closed, to the point that the curb idle adjusting screw is nowhere near touching the throttle lever. I'll be replacing this carb tomorrow.
Greg
 
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 09:56 PM
  #6  
baddad457's Avatar
baddad457
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 11,141
Likes: 25
From: south louisiana
So you're just going to give up on it? Other than the mixture screws not seeming to respond, how does it run?
 
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 10:19 PM
  #7  
albung's Avatar
albung
Senior User
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 447
Likes: 0
From: youngstown ohio
u get a backfire???? backfires are death for a power valve
 
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2006 | 05:50 AM
  #8  
oldiron's Avatar
oldiron
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 184
Likes: 0
From: Chattanooga US
No backfires and other than running pig rich at idle it does fine.
Greg
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Sep 6, 2006 | 05:38 PM
  #9  
dmc919's Avatar
dmc919
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
is it electric choke? does it have a fast idle adjustment? I know my holly did and i couldn't get it to idle down, i eventually disconnected the fast idle linkage and i can idle it down till it stalls now.
 
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2006 | 09:41 PM
  #10  
F150 hybred's Avatar
F150 hybred
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
From: Manitoba Canada
Ok.. having been through this myself, I'll shed some light on things. First thing to check is the secondary throttle stop. (are the secondaries fully closed). Second, check the inlet needle height. you should have fuel ALMOST ready to trickle out of the site holes. Third, (and this was my problem) remove the main meetering block and make SURE that you have both idle air bleeds. Not having them will cause a rich running situation at idle. If that's the problem, return the carb to the place of purchase and get another. Don't worry, those carbs are easy to work on. they were designed to be quick for racers to service and that makes them easy for us to figure out. Also, if you can find it... get the book on tuning holly carbs. It will really open your eyes to what can be done with those chunks of aluminum that we cal carburetors.
 
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 04:14 PM
  #11  
tgore3's Avatar
tgore3
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 396
Likes: 0
From: Eureka, KS
I've had tons of problems like this with Holley carbs. Some guys just "get" Holley's and some don't I think. I've just went with Edelbrock carbs the last 2 I've replaced. Could never keep the Holleys tuned, one day it was great and the next it needed adjusting.

Holleys make such good power but seem so hard to run and keep running right on a daily driver. Edelbrocks are nice because you usually just bolt them on, adjust the idle and go.

You Holley guys don't yell at me, just telling my experience. I'd sure run one on a race motor.
 
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 05:44 PM
  #12  
F150 hybred's Avatar
F150 hybred
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
From: Manitoba Canada
Wierd... I have had mine for going on three years now, and other than my issue with the idle air bleeds, I have yet to have a problem. Also dropped my fuel consumption too! Not braggin, just passing on one of the good stories. I'm sure that for every good experience there are twice as many bad ones for each manufacturer. Whatever ones choice is, so long as they are happy in the end is what truely counts.
 
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 06:57 PM
  #13  
oldiron's Avatar
oldiron
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 184
Likes: 0
From: Chattanooga US
Finally found the problem.....The metering block on my "professionally rebuilt" holley is full of garbage. This carb was supposed to be spec built with #63 primary jets ( there are corroded #66's in it) power valve protection (not there either) and be re-dyed (it was painted, of course all that came off when I tore it down). I bought another off the shelf 1850 and it works perfectly. The only carbs I've ever run are holleys, I wanted this one done by a pro, so it would be plug and play. Thanks to everyone who helped out.
I think I'll keep the new carb and throw this one through someones window
Greg
 
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 08:06 PM
  #14  
tgore3's Avatar
tgore3
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 396
Likes: 0
From: Eureka, KS
So it wasn't a new carb? Did you buy from someone? At least it's running right.
 
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 09:33 PM
  #15  
oldiron's Avatar
oldiron
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 184
Likes: 0
From: Chattanooga US
It was supposed to be a custom build w/all new parts, tailored for my Bronco. Looks like I got a painted core. Lesson learned.
Greg
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:36 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE