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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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Question rocker size help

Built a 351 and right now I have 1:6 scorpion roller rockers sitting on a set alum.eldelbrock heads with a ford E-303 cam. Would there be a better outcome if I were to up grade to 1:7 and make that cam performed better any input would be helpful thanks
 
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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The guys that know the 351W best are here!
 
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Torque1st
The guys that know the 351W best are here!
that is definitely not me...BUT i recently tried to put in 1.7 ratio and it would have required different push rods- to include buying a measuring rod to find out the proper length- not sure how common of an issue that is But I didn't have the time so I went with the 1.6.

I was going with 1.7 to get more lift. If I remember right a cam that had, say .45 lift with a 1.6 would obtain almost .48 with the 1.7 ratio...theres a simple formula to figure it out (current lift divided by 1.6 multiplied by 1.7). It doesn't lengthen duration but you get increased lift within the same distance, time etc. Personally I like the concept of lift- if not overdone. you get the valve higher faster and that should help low end power...i think.

Now someone who knows what they are talking about will help.....
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 07:15 AM
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Most 1.7roller rockers for 5.8L come with shims so you don't need to change out the pushrods.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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pedestal vs stud?
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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The Ecam has been used by a lot of people with 1.7's, but I'd hate to be the one in 100 were a collision occured. The lift with 1.7's is .530. With most 302/351w heads the extra lift does make significant difference though.

Are the Edelbrocks your using 1.94" intakes or 2.02"? If they are 1.94 it might be okay, but most of these guys running the Ecam with 1.7's, are running E7's or GT40's. If they are 2.02, and the pistons are stock, then don't do it. If your head flow up to .500 is good and there's not that much to be gained by the extra lift, it may not be worth the risk.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by roger dowty
pedestal vs stud?
On mos stock applications, either will work, however, many of the stud mount units offer some ajustability. There are pedestal mounts that are also adjustable, and I think that comes with a price too.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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I looked up the flow numbers on Edelbrock heads. Edelbrock heads like a few other aftermarket heads have most of there total flow at lower lift, with high port velocities, and don't really need high valve lifts, like the more stock type heads, to obtain the maximal flow potential. There's only 3 cfm more flow at .600 valve lift compared to .500 lift, and the flow at .450 is almost as much as .500.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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It doesn't seem to be worth the time and money then.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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if the ramp rate is steeper it might take advantage of that early flow??
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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verry good info on this thanks for all your input i did have 1:7 on the 5.0 i had in it and did not know if it would do some good in the 5.8
 
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