help me guys....title???
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There is another option - and a good legal one at that. Stay away from any option which might even have a whiff like it is shady. It will eventually rot enough to stink to high heaven, and get you into a lot of trouble you don't want to have on your record. We have a saying in the miltary for things that get you in trouble, they are called "jail bait." Let me guarantee you, a mismatched title is jail bait.
Let me explain a little bit first. The Ford trucks of that vintage were not titled acccording to the body, they were titled according to the frame VIN. The door plate is called a WARRANTY plate, and it is not valid for title purposes - although that's what was done, as the two matched from the factory. The plate even says it is not to be used for titling purposes, but they do it anyway.
The frame VIN is on the passenger side rail, one just behind the radiator mount, and one under the cab. If you title the truck with a different VIN that doesn't match the frame, you have an illegally titled truck. VINs mismatched between the title and the frame (NOT the body!) are what will get you in trouble. Note, this rule doesn't apply to later vehicles, as the car manufacturers started stamping the bodies with the frame VIN as well. For this era of trucks, though, the bodies have no VIN.
Many states will compare the title with the frame VIN. More are doing this because unscrupulous dealers buy totalled cars in one state and sell them as almost new in another, like what happened after Katrina. Also, more states and insurance companies require a frame VIN and title match after an accident. When you move to another state, or have the truck inspected in the aftermath of an accident, the frame VIN will be compared to the title - and if they don't match, you are in for it.
If you are attempting to title the truck with the mismatched VINs in another state, you will not be able to get a title for the truck at a minimum. Many states will confiscate the vehicle right there until you can prove ownership of the frame VIN. If you sold the truck with the mismatched VINs to someone in another state, the new state will involve you as selling a stolen vehicle. The new owner will come after you to get his money back, and now you have both the law and the civil courts after you.
If you are involved in an accident and the VINs do not match, your insurance will not cover it, because it was for a different VIN. Those apples are pretty sour too.
None of these scenarios are worth bypassing title problems.
Therefore, because the body has no VIN stamped into it, you can swap the body onto another frame, and use that frame's title instead. You'll probably have to deal with a rustier frame, brakelines and the like, but you may find it much easier in the long run.
You can use a '67 - '72 frame and everything will bolt up correctly - as long as you use the same kind of frame as you have now. If you try to use a short bed frame for a long bed truck, you will have problems, and viceversa.
You might want to consider putting the body on a '73 - '79 frame, to get upgraded options like power steering and disc brakes. The cab and front end will fit fine, but you will need to do some adjustment to the bed as the frame is wider back there.
Hope this helps, and good luck.
Let me explain a little bit first. The Ford trucks of that vintage were not titled acccording to the body, they were titled according to the frame VIN. The door plate is called a WARRANTY plate, and it is not valid for title purposes - although that's what was done, as the two matched from the factory. The plate even says it is not to be used for titling purposes, but they do it anyway.
The frame VIN is on the passenger side rail, one just behind the radiator mount, and one under the cab. If you title the truck with a different VIN that doesn't match the frame, you have an illegally titled truck. VINs mismatched between the title and the frame (NOT the body!) are what will get you in trouble. Note, this rule doesn't apply to later vehicles, as the car manufacturers started stamping the bodies with the frame VIN as well. For this era of trucks, though, the bodies have no VIN.
Many states will compare the title with the frame VIN. More are doing this because unscrupulous dealers buy totalled cars in one state and sell them as almost new in another, like what happened after Katrina. Also, more states and insurance companies require a frame VIN and title match after an accident. When you move to another state, or have the truck inspected in the aftermath of an accident, the frame VIN will be compared to the title - and if they don't match, you are in for it.
If you are attempting to title the truck with the mismatched VINs in another state, you will not be able to get a title for the truck at a minimum. Many states will confiscate the vehicle right there until you can prove ownership of the frame VIN. If you sold the truck with the mismatched VINs to someone in another state, the new state will involve you as selling a stolen vehicle. The new owner will come after you to get his money back, and now you have both the law and the civil courts after you.
If you are involved in an accident and the VINs do not match, your insurance will not cover it, because it was for a different VIN. Those apples are pretty sour too.
None of these scenarios are worth bypassing title problems.
Therefore, because the body has no VIN stamped into it, you can swap the body onto another frame, and use that frame's title instead. You'll probably have to deal with a rustier frame, brakelines and the like, but you may find it much easier in the long run.
You can use a '67 - '72 frame and everything will bolt up correctly - as long as you use the same kind of frame as you have now. If you try to use a short bed frame for a long bed truck, you will have problems, and viceversa.
You might want to consider putting the body on a '73 - '79 frame, to get upgraded options like power steering and disc brakes. The cab and front end will fit fine, but you will need to do some adjustment to the bed as the frame is wider back there.
Hope this helps, and good luck.
Last edited by banjopicker66; Aug 31, 2006 at 07:36 AM.
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so it's not exactly legal
by the way i cut off frame stub and have that to. and all the stuff off of the 1973-1977 will fit the early truck's even the saddle tank's so why use a weaker frame from the 70's and by the way 1967-1969 f250's had the same frame and front axle's and the only difference in the 1970-1972 was the rear shock mount's and dash panel 'gauge' panel wireing the 1970-on had printed curcuit dash pod oh and the grill, hood and outer trim if any did you allso know that the tailgate from 1973-1978 will fit on 1961-1972 just wont look as good with the different body style so with springs brake's and rear axle you could have a 3/4ton f100 real easy just like mine hahaas for the title i only kept it for sentimental reasons the truck was what i learned to drive in it's a 1969 ranger package f100 302 2bbl three on tree with limited slip 9" 3.11 gears forest green and white with the white intirior i forget what they called it right know lol any way don't condesend to me 
