Pullin!!!
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Pullin!!!
Anyone out there ever pulled our old style pickups in a truck pull? I have a buddy who has a brand new GMC that daddy is paying for that is all re-programmed and has nos in it, he's pushing 630 horses, i'm convinced that pulling has just about nothing to do with power and has everything to do with traction, sure power has some play yes but i think my stock 89 f-250 non turbo diesel would do just as well as his gay man chevy does. Anyone have an opinion on this? Anyone have any advice for pulling and whats the best way to get to that three hundred foot mark?
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Best I can offer is on Sunday morning really early go to Wallymart and practice. Put your truck in reverse and drive as fast as you can backwards in a straight line......... without swerving. Sorry but you don't stand a chance in hell.....
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I agree with PLC7.3, you would need some tailwind to pull that off.
Don't get me wrong, I am proud of my IDI, but I would still take the space shuttle if I wanted to go to the moon.
Sebastian.
Don't get me wrong, I am proud of my IDI, but I would still take the space shuttle if I wanted to go to the moon.
Sebastian.
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I'll try to get to wal-mart this weekend not gonna promise anything, but i still am convinced that with the right traction you can win no matter what the power stand point is, also what is the difference between horsepower and tourqe, in english terms i've read a bunch of stuff but i still don't get it, they use to big of words i guess.
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What happens is the big horsepower rigs get the sled moving fast. That momentum helps them go farther.
Torque moves the load, HP makes the load go faster.
Yes you have enough torque to pull it, I saw it done just a couple weeks ago by several IDI NA engines that went about 120 feet in the street diesel class.
One of our very own WV FTE members that runs a Stroker putting out about 600 HP made a full pull first and second round. Placed third in his class.
Mech 2161 is his user name.
Here is a picture of his truck in Indiana at a pull.
On dirt you will run out of traction way before you will run out of torque, the big boys run lockers in both ends of their trucks.
Torque moves the load, HP makes the load go faster.
Yes you have enough torque to pull it, I saw it done just a couple weeks ago by several IDI NA engines that went about 120 feet in the street diesel class.
One of our very own WV FTE members that runs a Stroker putting out about 600 HP made a full pull first and second round. Placed third in his class.
Mech 2161 is his user name.
Here is a picture of his truck in Indiana at a pull.
On dirt you will run out of traction way before you will run out of torque, the big boys run lockers in both ends of their trucks.
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I pulled my 91 7.3L NA that I used to have. My dad knows some of the veteren pullers and they said it kindof pissed them off because I did so well with it and like every veteren puller will tell you,don't ever pull your ride. Anyway I never ran out of power, the rpms held steady the whole pull. It just didn't have the traction with the 235 M/T's. I ended up pullin the sled 175 ft, not bad for those dinky little tires. Dave is right though the key to pullin is speed. You definately need wide tires for more traction surface. Just be careful pullin your ride or you won't have anything to drive.
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No flames, I think that is actually a piece of machinery in the backround.
I was not at that pull, but I sis watch him pull 2 weeks ago at night, so I could have easily seen flames if they were there.
His smoke was even more impressive under the arena lights at night. But then he also just finished a couple more upgrades to the power plant.
Also got to watch a couple pro pullers bring their 5.9 Cummins off the line at 5600 RPM.
One told me he had 65,000 in machine work and parts just in his engine compartment, he had to assemble it after that.
The old big truck two stroke Detroit Diesels that were set up down in low country would blow flames out the exhaust up in the Rockies.
I was not at that pull, but I sis watch him pull 2 weeks ago at night, so I could have easily seen flames if they were there.
His smoke was even more impressive under the arena lights at night. But then he also just finished a couple more upgrades to the power plant.
Also got to watch a couple pro pullers bring their 5.9 Cummins off the line at 5600 RPM.
One told me he had 65,000 in machine work and parts just in his engine compartment, he had to assemble it after that.
The old big truck two stroke Detroit Diesels that were set up down in low country would blow flames out the exhaust up in the Rockies.
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hey
just get him to follow you in through some mud and when his electric jap junk break's just pull him out then haha! sorry never pulled with a truck but i've embarassed some truck's with tractor but with a tractor you have hight weight and gearing so i don't know you deffinately out class him in a FORD!!!
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http://www.dhraonline.com/?GROUP=main&PAGE=rules
Here is a link to the rules for DHRA sanctioned events.
Weight is checked to determine your class.
To much and you will be pulling with trucks you don't stand a chance with.
Here is a link to the rules for DHRA sanctioned events.
Weight is checked to determine your class.
To much and you will be pulling with trucks you don't stand a chance with.
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Wouldn't torque be more important in a pulling event? Or is it timed? If it isn't time and its just a matter of pulling the object as far as you can, it would be more logical to have high torque so you can at least pull what ever you're pulling with ease.
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No time involved in pulling, take as long as you want.
You still need a way to get the tires to hook up and stay hooked up.
All the torque in the world will not help if you have no traction.
Every truck in every class was running and spinning the tires at the end of their pull.
If you can get the sled moving fast enough, inertia works for you.
If you are just pulling it, mass and friction will stop even the most powerful engine.
You still need a way to get the tires to hook up and stay hooked up.
All the torque in the world will not help if you have no traction.
Every truck in every class was running and spinning the tires at the end of their pull.
If you can get the sled moving fast enough, inertia works for you.
If you are just pulling it, mass and friction will stop even the most powerful engine.
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Yeah it all has to do with physics, physics sucks, all i know is i want to shut daddy's little boy up with his Gay Man Chevy and kick some tail with my Ford. Yeah my truck has a lot of custom work that many people think would be dumb and looks stupid but i'm pretty sure i would out pull him if we hooked chain to chain, i would have the traction and gearing in my favor, or so i like to think.
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Well all you have to do is look at the money side of it.
You can do a complete rebuild for the price of a set of injectors for the duratrash.
Having the strongest truck or the fastest truck is a pipe dream, there is always a faster or more powerful truck somewhere.
You can drive your truck for a year for what his insurance payment is, then there is still truck payments, fuel, tires and other maintence that he has to do on his.
When dad quites making the payments and all that I know wich one will be setting in the repo yard first.
You can do a complete rebuild for the price of a set of injectors for the duratrash.
Having the strongest truck or the fastest truck is a pipe dream, there is always a faster or more powerful truck somewhere.
You can drive your truck for a year for what his insurance payment is, then there is still truck payments, fuel, tires and other maintence that he has to do on his.
When dad quites making the payments and all that I know wich one will be setting in the repo yard first.
