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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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Fuel Additives

First let me say....Don't Shoot The Messenger......I just read an article in Diesel World Magazine about fuel additives. It's the Sept. issue Volume 1 Number 3.
Page 124 talks about low-sulfer fuel and that it is not accurate that people think
it cause problems with lubricity. Sulfer is not a lubricant. The article also states that Cummins says additives are not necessary, International does not comment on additives for the article. If you are getting good diesel fuel, additives are not a necessity, according to the magazine.

Have any of you read this article, if so, what do you say?

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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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interesting read
 
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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That is interesting Phish555...I'm sure that all the Additive companies that pay for advertisement space in that magazine will re-think their budget for the remaining issues(grin). I saw that article and never could get through it completely.
 

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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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DoublePost...Sorry
 
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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I have been saying this for some tme now, I have over 140,000 miles on my 04, 6.0 . The only time I add anyting into my tank is when the temps drop below 20 Degrees out. I dont believe you should pay 3.00 a gallon for fuel then put additives in also, Waste of Money. Alot of people have a misconseption about diesel engines.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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phish---you are exactly right. But the operative phrase is "if you have good fuel". The reason for the additives is there is no guarantee that you will be getting good fuel from one day to the next. Yes, the 6.0 is very sensitive to fuel quality, yes there is someone that is blessed with good, consistent fuel. That is the reason for all the furor about new engines, about ulsd, the government is requiring oil companies to standardize the fuel nationwide. If you can say with all certainty that the fuel you will use is over a minimum cetane rating, no, additives are not necessary.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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How will diesel fuel properties, other than sulfur, change with S15 (ULSD)?

There are several diesel fuel properties other than sulfur that will change as a result of moving to S15 (ULSD).
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http://www.chevron.com/products/prod...ulsd.shtml#A13

The lubricity additives are mixed by the local distributors. I have no idea as to the accuracy when dispensing these lubricity additives.

In addition it is my understanding that ULSD is more susceptible to moisture attraction and entrapment....think I'll keep doing what I have been successful with. DK at each fill up. Glad it is my dime and not someone else's.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 01:47 AM
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KW - I totaly agree with you... if your going to go out and pay 40k for a truck and $3.oo + per gallon for fuel that is not accurate as to what grade or quality it is.... why not be on the safe side... the use of additives like "DK" is like your wife being on the "pill" (aka the new truck) and you using a rubber (aka fuel additive)... what im trying to say is... better to be safe then sorry... it sounds to me that the fuel additive wont harm the truck in any way.. it will only help with everthing and probibly make things better in the long run.... ill keep using my "DK" as well and stay on the safe side....


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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 03:15 AM
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I think it is cost effective to use Diesel Kleen. I am seeing about a 10% increase in my overall mileage. Some of that is due to more careful driving techniques, but I still think it is worth it. I use it at the higher cetane boost level. It adds about $3 to a 25 gallon fill up.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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As I have stated before in other posts, I too use Diesel Kleen with every fill-up. Also, its not what I am saying, only what I have just read. KW, I read what you posted from Chevron, the article seems to contradict what that says, (again, not I, but the article). My original question is if any of you have read that article and what your thoughts are on it, (the article). I value the opinion of you guys, and would like to know what it is based on reading the article.

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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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Not to alarm anyone, but do you think the Oil companies would tell us that the new mandate from the EPA is going to cause our injectors to fail quicker? What kind of response would they get from telling us the truth? Remember what we are using now is causing problems according to techs that participate here. (suspect fuel quality, and energy content) So if we take more lubricating compounds out where does that leave us? Just something to think about when filling up your $40,000 truck.


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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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Oil companys don't always tell the truth or do as they are suppose to if you don't belive me check out BP
 
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by busdriver47
Oil companys don't always tell the truth or do as they are suppose to if you don't belive me check out BP
Amen .........


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