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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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Hurkin' big driveshaft

Why is the driveshaft on my 2000 Ranger so huge? It's a massive piece of obviously welded aluminum.

I vaguely remember hearing something about this in the forum a long while back but this is a new truck - welding on metal hardly seems like a solution you'd find on a production line truck.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Did you buy it used? I'm pretty sure it'd be aluminum, but welded "obviously" is odd... Any pictures?
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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No I got it brand spanking new, but I can snap a few shots. Maybe I'm mistaken about the welds, hard to tell sometimes lying on your back in the shadows looking at a greasy hunk of metal.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Umm, the entire body is welded together from stamped panels of steel, the frame is welded together, and yes, the driveshaft tube has to be welded to the yokes at each end.


Hee Hee! - all kidding aside, you might be looking at the weights that were welded on to balance the driveshaft. They would look like a curved washer with a blob of weld on each end.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Greasy? Got some oil or tranny fluid blowing back there on it? Pics would be cool. No obvious welds on mine...
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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Well okay so it ain't greasy, in fact it's as clean as a whistle

But if that ain't a weld I'm blind or something. It is aluminum, it even says Alcoa on the side.


 
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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But back to my question, why is it so frickin' huge?
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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From what I've been told, the torque is spread out better over a larger diameter shaft. That way they can use alum. which is lighter. If they made a smaller shaft out of alum, it would twist and then snap.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Right. Since it's aluminum it doesn't have the torsional stress of other materials (cast iron), and thus it would tend to wrap under heavy torque. Those welds are normal factory welds, I was thinking you meant like in the middle of the shaft or something.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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You know I didn't actually think that was the driveshaft. Looking at it I thought it was some sort of shroud or covering for the real one.

That doesn't explain the horrible weld job they did on the yolk side, but it makes sense to me what I'm seeing now.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by eigenvector

But if that ain't a weld I'm blind or something. It is aluminum, it even says Alcoa on the side.

Cool, my new job, i am a roll technitian. I Work on the rolls that Alcoa uses to press its metals. funny how small the world is.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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But back to my question, why is it so frickin' huge?
Eigen, since we're both Engineers go have a lookie in your mechanics of materials book for the subject of torsional stress (f = Tc/J) and deflection. Think about torsional buckling too; it's for real and it has been addressed. As to why it's welded, can you imagine what that driveshaft would cost if it were somehow a one piece swaged or forged then machined part? Ouch!

*That weld you are looking at was not done by hand, it was done on a jig that rotates the driveshaft at a controlled rate of speed while the weld bead is being layed. BTW, I don't see anything *horrible* on the weld in your pic.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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You must grind and polish those welds immediately. Otherwise, all those people under your truck will think less of you.

 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Well I won't grind and polish the welds, which to me do look sloppy, but I guess the transmission don't care. I am getting a hankering for polishing those terribly rusted driveshafts and u-joints it's mated to. My god those things are rusty.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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It is balanaced, so grinding the welds could create a problem; glad you're not going to.
 
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