Oh Someone Please Help, Please
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Oh Someone Please Help, Please
So it started with a simple little leak around the first injector under the fuel filter and then went south… way south. As I started in on this what should have been quick and easy fix, I noticed that the injector was fighting me the whole way as I removed, when it finally came free from its home I found that the injector was covered with a build-up of some sort of grim-crap and that the injector hole also had it all over the inside. As I started to try and clean the junk out of the injector hole the worst thing that I can think happened, it was so unbelievable that I all most passed out. A large ball of grim crap junk fell into the…. I can’t even bring myself to type it, but ya’ll know where it went. Sooo… do I just charge it to the game and pray for the best or do I get a shop vac and pull the glow plug out and put the vac over the injector hole and pray and hope that the diesel gods see fit that my luck changes or do I send the money that I don’t have and pull the top the motor off and clean it out? At this time I would like to curl up in a ball and cry like a little girl that just saw her puppy hit by a mack truck.
If anyone has any ideas, opinion, suggestions or just wants to make fun of me for being a bone head, please reply.
I need something, anything will do.
Thanks for any help.
the bone head of the day
If anyone has any ideas, opinion, suggestions or just wants to make fun of me for being a bone head, please reply.
I need something, anything will do.
Thanks for any help.
the bone head of the day
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no ribbing, laughing, or name calling till you are back in the clear and running again.
pull the glow plug and use the shop vac.
but before you do anything, cover the injector hole, and blow the top of the engine off real good. another thing to try is introducing air from a blow gun on the air hose into the glow plug port whole you have the shop vac hooked up. it might swirl things up and pop it out.
pull the glow plug and use the shop vac.
but before you do anything, cover the injector hole, and blow the top of the engine off real good. another thing to try is introducing air from a blow gun on the air hose into the glow plug port whole you have the shop vac hooked up. it might swirl things up and pop it out.
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thanks tjc,
i will add the air compressor into the plan, so now i have vac and air compressor to work with, could i spray anything like pbblaster or wd40 down in the injector hole before i hit it with the vac and compressor?
please keep the ideas coming.
thanks.
i will add the air compressor into the plan, so now i have vac and air compressor to work with, could i spray anything like pbblaster or wd40 down in the injector hole before i hit it with the vac and compressor?
please keep the ideas coming.
thanks.
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First bring that piston to TDC if it not already there........ If it was goey crud from the head injector bore walls it may not be too bad....if you use any liquid get some Mercury Power Tune spray for boat engines. It really disolves the carbon crud and as long as you leave the GP and injector out can roll the engine over and push any excess fluid out the hole(s).
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deeproots, i live in columbus thats about a hour or more south of atlanta.
plc7.3, it was goey crud from the bore walls(how did it get there?) if you rubbed the crud around in your hand it breaks down to about the size of sand then if you put a magnet to it you don't pick up much. i don't have a manual on diesel, but i do know that i can bring the piston to tdc with a wrench on the crank, but how do i know when it at tdc, does it have mark next to the crank pully? i down have much time to work on this dang truck, i leave for texas friday and i need the stupid truck for work tomorrow, and the list could go on and on, i am the luckest man alive.
by the way thank so much for the help everyone, i need all the ideas and info that i can get. i'm going to use the vac and air compressor trick right now, and see how far that gets me. i will report later tonight how everything goes.
plc7.3, it was goey crud from the bore walls(how did it get there?) if you rubbed the crud around in your hand it breaks down to about the size of sand then if you put a magnet to it you don't pick up much. i don't have a manual on diesel, but i do know that i can bring the piston to tdc with a wrench on the crank, but how do i know when it at tdc, does it have mark next to the crank pully? i down have much time to work on this dang truck, i leave for texas friday and i need the stupid truck for work tomorrow, and the list could go on and on, i am the luckest man alive.
by the way thank so much for the help everyone, i need all the ideas and info that i can get. i'm going to use the vac and air compressor trick right now, and see how far that gets me. i will report later tonight how everything goes.
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try to get the crap via the injector hole via the shopvac and hose reducers. If it went into the injector hole it is in the precup chamber and sat there. If you cant get things out thru glow plug hole, try the compressed air into glow plug hole and vacuum the injector hole with shop vac at the same time.
you placed in your id that it is N/A so you dont have to worry about turbo fin damage if it goes out the exhaust valve. crank with on/off solenoid disconntected and glow plugs disconnected and ports open only for a short time. Try to vacuum again thru injector port.
it sounds like the crush washer was omitted by someone and you got some crap in the bores. Carefully use compressed air on remaining cylinders and clean them all out (compressed air) before doing any further work on injectors.
you placed in your id that it is N/A so you dont have to worry about turbo fin damage if it goes out the exhaust valve. crank with on/off solenoid disconntected and glow plugs disconnected and ports open only for a short time. Try to vacuum again thru injector port.
it sounds like the crush washer was omitted by someone and you got some crap in the bores. Carefully use compressed air on remaining cylinders and clean them all out (compressed air) before doing any further work on injectors.
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here it is, i have do the vac/compressor trick with no luck, next i sprayed pbblaster into the injector hole and then went back to the vac/compressor, on luck.
plc7.3 the auto store here in columbus no where ga. dose not have and has never heared of mercury power tune spray come on i have seen in before but 3 stores and every guy look at me like what are you talking about... we got some wd40 is that what you need?
i need to pull some thing out of my a$$.
help.
plc7.3 the auto store here in columbus no where ga. dose not have and has never heared of mercury power tune spray come on i have seen in before but 3 stores and every guy look at me like what are you talking about... we got some wd40 is that what you need?
i need to pull some thing out of my a$$.
help.
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well.... here it is.
first thank you to all for the people the replyed to me on this crazy event, ya'll are... i don't even know what to say, ya'll are great people the world needs more people of this kind, so here it is after using the vac and the compressor over and over and hand turning the motor i put everthing back together and fired her off, ran her for a little while and there seem to be no problem. maybe i just got lucky maybe it worked, who knows but the big f350 is running, now i must go and clean up some tools. take a bath and hit the road at 5am.
thank you thank you
tjc, plc7.3, deeproots, and bilder12,
any time you boys are in columbus ga. let me know, ya'll got a place to stay and free beer. the deisil gods like me , no, no they love me, and they love ya'll too.
good night to all and to all a good night.
first thank you to all for the people the replyed to me on this crazy event, ya'll are... i don't even know what to say, ya'll are great people the world needs more people of this kind, so here it is after using the vac and the compressor over and over and hand turning the motor i put everthing back together and fired her off, ran her for a little while and there seem to be no problem. maybe i just got lucky maybe it worked, who knows but the big f350 is running, now i must go and clean up some tools. take a bath and hit the road at 5am.
thank you thank you
tjc, plc7.3, deeproots, and bilder12,
any time you boys are in columbus ga. let me know, ya'll got a place to stay and free beer. the deisil gods like me , no, no they love me, and they love ya'll too.
good night to all and to all a good night.
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ok the bone head returns.
i forgot to put the new copper crush washer in. so i have one injector without a crush washer, how bad is this? I take it as it might be bad, because now i have a click or tick sound coming from the motor. or maybe i was not as luck as i hoped to be. found all this out after i took the truck for a test run. truck runs good. did i mess up by running the truck without the crush washer? i have to have this truck for tomorrow. can i run it without the crush washer at all or do i need go back and replace it? i will only be running it about 90 miles. i know that i should do things the right way the first time, but dang i need the sleep.
i forgot to put the new copper crush washer in. so i have one injector without a crush washer, how bad is this? I take it as it might be bad, because now i have a click or tick sound coming from the motor. or maybe i was not as luck as i hoped to be. found all this out after i took the truck for a test run. truck runs good. did i mess up by running the truck without the crush washer? i have to have this truck for tomorrow. can i run it without the crush washer at all or do i need go back and replace it? i will only be running it about 90 miles. i know that i should do things the right way the first time, but dang i need the sleep.
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pull the injector, and put the crushwasher on.... it's no big job.
or should I say, *I* probably wouldn't run the truck 90 miles without it.
if you needed to pull the heads, I'd have probably stopped by.... never been to columbus.
or should I say, *I* probably wouldn't run the truck 90 miles without it.
if you needed to pull the heads, I'd have probably stopped by.... never been to columbus.
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put the crush washer in ... it seals the cylinder or you'll have a bigger mess again and maybe cause bigger problems. it shouldnt take too long and the experience is a great learning tool.
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so i went back replaced the crush washer before running the truck again. so that fuel leak is fixed but now the truck is hard to start, meaning that i have a leak some where else or the gp system is acting up again. just my luck, more work. thanks for all the help on this project guys. good news is my rig runs like a champ now.