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Well I needed to get a new now and ended up buying a dodge 3500 quad cab DRW with the 5.9l diesel and 6 speed trans, after my 04 f350 was a buy back I couldnt buy another 6.0L, I looked at the duramax, great motor and trans but the rest of the truck is too light duty for my needs, towing 12k and plowing. The dodge is a nice truck but not as nice as the superduty inside and out but I feel the motor and trans are much better than the ford well at least the motor, with 3000 miles on the truck I am getting 20 mpg empty and 14 mpg pulling my 12k 5 wheel car trailer(WOW) thats what my old 6.0L got empty. Well I hope when the time comes for my next truck Ford has there act together so I can go back to being a Ford Guy, as all my other cars are Fords.
you know at least you still want to belive in ford's. The Ford Company is lucky to have guys like you. it is too bad you can't get a Cummins in a Ford. tht would be a darn good truck.
I would buy just as you did, A Dodge with a Cummins and the 6 sp manual. If Dodge offered an Allison Trans then I might consider an A/T. What I think SUCKS is for what a person has to pay for a PICKUP you should beable to do as truckers SPEC your truck. A FORD with a CUMMINS and an ALLISON TRANS. or what ever YOU want.
Why anyone would buy a IH diesel is way beyond me.
If your are like most of the guys I know that went to DODGE with CUMMINS, FORD can say god-bye forever.
so you bought less of a truck so you could get a engine other than a 6.0?
too bad! my '07 6.0 runs sweet.
Yes that is correct, after I had my 04 which was a POS, I will not buy another 6.0 L, also good luck with your 07 I hear they have worked out most of the bugs now , just in time to replace it with a different motor which i hope is better then the last one. I did get lees truck as far as the features go but as far as the truck goes I got more power and much better fuel mileage. But if Ford has a good truck when the time comes I will consider it again.
but as far as the truck goes I got more power and much better fuel mileage.
You didn't get more power. You have to consider the driveline loses too. While the engine is 'rated' higher, you're getting less power to the ground. That's why every single 6.0L will outhaul a cummins down the highway, up the mountain. Advantage V8's in highway hauling. You can't get enough gears to make an I6 competitive in the light duty pickup market (no room under the truck).
Mileage is a wash...too many variables.
Good luck, though...you should have enough power. Let's hope your cummins doesn't ***'a'part.
I guess thats why they say people say take things on here with a grain of salt. If you have a Ford and a Dodge with the same Gear ratio, 6 speed tranny, and all other things being equal (we'll assume they're regular cab), You're telling me that the Dodge is going to have more driveline losses? How?
My dad's 05 dodge with an auto is at 1800 rpm at 65mph on I5. Not really understanding how fast you think you need to go on the freeway. 115 with a goose neck?
"Advantage V8's in highway hauling."---Yeah thats why OTR tractors use Inline 6 Diesels.
I am ford through and through, but I have to deal with the same crap from people with 302's talking smack about my 300 because it has 2 less pistons.
But ya know, now that you told him that, I bet he'll see the error in his ways and buy another 6.0.
As I said, "My dad's 05 dodge with an auto is at 1800 rpm at 65mph on I5. Not really understanding how fast you think you need to go on the freeway. 115 with a goose neck?"
So what it sounds like, is you have to have a V8 diesel bouncing off the governer on the highway to beat the 6 cyl. The only good V8 diesel was a Mack E9. The newer pickup V8 diesels are partially reliable, and too high strung. The Cummins can spin just as many rpm as a 6 litre or Duramax, if that's what matters in this case. Next thing I guess I'll hear is it takes lots of rpm's to win a drag race.
detroit diesels were V8's and they were pretty good if I recall? Cummins has had it's reign, now the duramax will show that displacement is what really matter. There is no replacement for displacement (hense the new 6.4 PSD and the new 6.7 cummins). BTW one of my friends got pulled over on the way back from Canada pulling a large enclosed snowmobile at 9X MPH......lets just say the officer was less than impressed.
BTW all BS aside.....the Allison 6 speed is what makes the new duramax shine. When will dodge wake up?
An I6 needs more gears than a V8 pull a load up the mountain equally. The I6 powerband is lower in the rpm range. V8's have the gearing advantage because they still produce power at the higher rpms. You can't fit enough gears under a light duty pickup to let an I6 beat a V8 up the mountain (with similar engine ratings).
Sure it works, but there's a better way for highway hauling. We aren't driving tractors.
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