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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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Allison Tranny?

I heard a rumor today at work that the new super duties will have an allison tranny in them. any truth to this?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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Ummmmm no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 04:37 AM
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Ford spent alot of time and money developing thier own heavy duty tranny for the diesel, the tranny seems to work well, don't hear many compaints. Ford prides it's self on being different than gm.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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F-650 and F-750 trucks have Allison transmissions. All others, including the LCF use Torqshifts.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 12:52 AM
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I would sure like to see the torqshift become a 6 speed (I guess it sorta is now) with a usable gear between direct drive and the current OD
 
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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I think ford is did a good job with there trannys. I think if the new engine has more power the tranny should handle it. My 06 F250 Torque Shift seems to get the job done!
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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the torque shift was originally designed to be a 6-speed auto. 2 of the gears were so close the decided to convert it to a 5 speed auto
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Interesting note is that my '07 TS equipped PSD turns lower RPM at a given cruising speed than my '05 Dmax did with a 5 speed Ally. In fact, the 6 speed Ally had a reported around 1600 RPM 60 mph cruise which is close to what my '07 PSD is at...!

The 6 speed Ally is a 2 overdrive gear unit, both 5 and 6 are overdrives. Why is it we need a 6 speed Torqshift?? I'm quite happy with 5....
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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because mainstream consumers care about numbers, and the bigger numbers the better. do we need 650lb-ft from the factory? no(but im not complaining), but if thats more than the competition then that will be one more reason for the consumer to pick that over the others.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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There are definate advantages to having more gears. Not all of them have to be at the top end. If you can start at a little lower ratio and finish at a slightly higher one it reduces slippage in the lower gears and reduces engine rpms in the upper. Both equate to better efficiency. Also the "jump" between gears is reduced making shifting smoother. For the average every day driver (which is getting less and less with fuel prices these days) this really doesn't make much difference. However, under load this greatly reduces wear and tear and extends engine and transmission life.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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With larger loads (towing a trailer of some sort) the splits between 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, is just about right (400 rpm or so). But the split from 4-5 is much larger (about 800 rpm or so). For use in hills, mtns etc it would be nice to have another gear between the 4-5 shift that changed at about 400 rpm.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Are you sure the LCF has the torqshift? In the truck trader I've seen several ads for the LCF that claim "Allison Automatic"?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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Maybe the ford ones come with the TS and the international ones come with an allison tranny?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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That could very well be true, but the Ads specifically had a Ford and said Allison, and I just didn't see how that made sense. Especially since DaimlerChrysler bought DetroitAllison from GM.
 
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