I have a '63F100. has the original 262 six what and where can i find mounts to install a big block v8??? either a 460 w c6 auto or a 390 w/ 3 spd manual?

 

Cory, Sell your truck to someone that will appreciate a six cylinder and straight axle. Buy a 65 or 66 F100 with a V8 and build from there. One of the hardest things to do in this hobby is to actually start out with a plan, a budget and the right truck. I must confess in 50 years doing this stuff I have not gotten it right more than half the time. You seem to want a resto rod or flat out haul butt hot rod. Start with a truck as close to that goal as you can get and build from there. Check the classifieds here for the right truck, you may be able to swap with someone.
William in Atlanta

 

I am actually already doing a 65 with 360 4spd. that is my real project. the other one '63 i was going to do for something down to earth for the wife or something.

 

I would keep the truck as is and if your wife can handle a standard shift I would leave that alone as well. Six cylinders is plenty to get these old trucks around and your truck is worth more if it is not changed to much. I would add auto trans, AC and power drum/drum brakes, and a nice CD player. Keep the wife happy and save the money for the 65. IMHO!
William in Atlanta

 

unfortunately the original 6 is extremely tired. costs more to rebuild than any v8. i have a good 460 and a good 390 as spares. that was thought to use one of them if it is an easy swap. How do the mounts for a v8 work in 64 and prior trucks with the solid front end.

 

T-D Performance, formerly known as Trans-Dapt, sells a bolt in crossmember for the 460 and one for the C6 as well.

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 15-Aug-02 AT 01:45 AM (EST)]I hate to be the troublemaker here on the board, but lately I have seen a lot of negative comments when people have had questions about modifying their truck. Personally, I aggree that trucks shoud be kept as original as possible, but others do not. I am building a '62 stepside from the frame up and it will be keeping its original 223 and 3 speed. Should I ever need to replace the engine, it will probably be a 292 because I'd like a little more power and it is period correct. But if I asked a question about how to stuff a big block into a '62 and the first response is "sell the truck" I personally would offended and turned off to this site. I have been around for a while now here on the board and have see 1000's of helpful and friendly responses. William, please do not take this as a personal attack as you provide a great service to the board with your knowledge. I think that, even if we don't agree with the choices, we should be helpful and positive with our comments. (Except when it comes to putting c&@vy motors in, thats just wrong)

As for finding big block mounts for your '63 are available from T-D as lxman1 said, they are also available from Dennis Carpenter reproductions www.dennis-carpenter.com , Sacramento Vintage Ford www.vintageford.com , and other vendors. Search on google for old ford parts and you'll find others.

Remember, this is just my opinion and not an attack on anyone here. I just think that its important to keep people attracted to our hobby and not run them off. The more old fords on the road, the happier I am.

Tyson

 

Another idea that has tempted me is to splice in the crossmember from a 65 or later frame. It upgrades to coil spring twin I-beam, power steering, disk brakes, and you can bolt in anything Ford made for a powerplant.

 

While I agree stock trucks are going to be worth more in the long run, it is the owner's perogative to do what he wants with it. Additionally, the six cylinder isn't going to be worth what a V8 is, so it won't be the end of the world if one more worn out I-6 gets put in a corner.
However...
I also agree that buying one thus altered is a better plan. I thought I wanted a FE block truck myself, but in about a week I will (hopefully) be buying a '66 with 460 in it. This is actually more practical for what I want to use it for (towing) and less costly to maintain in the long run.
While I appreciate and deeply respect anyone who goes to the pains to restore any vehicle back to original new condition, for myself I've found it is far more fun to have something that fits my needs/desires than building something to someone else's standards, even if it is the factory in 1963. This keeps me more enthused about the hobby, and as long as it can be returned to stock with little drama I don't see any real horror in it. :-staun

 

62, Trucks built prior to 65 have a straight axle front end, center front motor mount and bell housing engine/transmission mounts. All of these factors contribute to more difficult and costly engineering challenges when moving engines and suspension components and systems around. Safety is paramount! It's that experience thing I guess! I always try to glean an idea of the posters skill and experience and then advise a course or action based on that. Building a big motor hauler starting with a straight axle truck is more difficult than starting with an I Beam V8 equipped truck. I appreciate your reading my advice and I really enjoy providing it. This site is the most fun I've had "bench racing" ever.
William in Atlanta

 

I think I'm in the same pinch you're in...

I was out trying to put a 390 into my 63 f100.

I know it's been done before.

Anybody know what motor mounts to use and where to get 'em?

The 390 has a mount on each side, while the 223 had a front motor mount.

There is not big crossmember under the engine, so they'll have to be mounted to the sidewalls.

Help!

Dan

(thanks)

 

To use a side /mid engine mount in a front mount OEM truck you' need to buy a "Motor Cradel" from an aftermarket company like "TRANS-DAP" from one of a host of places. JC Whitney caries them.
Personaly I like soild axle trucks, there safe if everythings in good order. Don't think so look under any school bus. What makes them unsafe is time and negect. Dropped axles are out there as well as camberd and castered axles from some "street rod" houses. There was a guy in the midwest that streched yours to lower the front end put caster in it and sent it back but his name and local is gone from my mind.

44Dwarf
Enjoy your truck, just becarefull you do research.

65 f100 302 3 on tree work horse.

 

the big trucks that use the "FT" engine, 330,361,391, use a front mount like the pre-65 trucks. I wonder if one of those mounts on an FE would work. Everything else interchanges.

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 16-Aug-02 AT 05:14 PM (EST)]>the big trucks that use the "FT" engine, 330,361,391, use a
>front mount like the pre-65 trucks. I wonder if one of those
>mounts on an FE would work. Everything else interchanges.

No they won't work, as you need the timing chain
cover from the FT engine as well, which will leak
out the front seal very badly...

The other problem with the Trans-dapt type cross
members, they mount the engine too low, and you'll
need to remove most of the present bellhousing
cross member...Ask me how I know...

You'll also need a rear sump oil pan...
again, ask me how I know...

Steve & the Rockette
'63 F100
'68 F100
'72 Capri 2L
'73 Capri 2.6L V6
'73 MG B GT 2.6L V6(Ford)
'98 Contour SVT 2.5L V6 (Mods)
'01 ZX2 (No Mods yet)

 

All 460 truck motors use a rear sump pan. The T/D motor mounts that I used on my 63 351W/C6 worked fine and put the motor right where it needed to be without modifying the extra crossmember. But I realize that the 460 is a bit larger.