filter and water with ulsd
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filter and water with ulsd
Hello Im a new member to the site and have been researching a new truck to replace my troubled duramax, I have decided on an f-350 crew 4x4 DRW but Im having trouble deciding on a motor and the rsearch Ive done on ulsd isn't helping. It appears that ULSD acts with water much like bio diesel and that the current filters may not catch it. Iv'e talked with enough ford diesel techs to know that water is not good for to the 6.0 injectors and that warranty does not cover damage from bad fuel. So my question is - Has any body else been researching this and is there a filter out there that will catch the H2O when dispersed in ULSD. To my knowledge ford currently does not reccommend using over 5% biodiesel due to the same problem with H2O. I cant remember where I read this about ULSD but Ive read alot of 100 plus page studies on the internet including the post on your site. Any way any help here would be appreciated thanks
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As for the water in fuel. Under the truck along the frame is the primary filter with a water separator. If a few drops of water get into the separator a light on the dash will come on to tell you to drain the water.
Biodiesel - I've been using B20 for 7 years in all farm equipment, trucks, pickups etc. with no problems. BUT I use a good quality fuel from a great supplier. It has a cetane of 51 min. He puts in a winterizer year around so no problems with water accumulation in summer. As of this writing the price is 2 cents more than the standard #2 with a 40 cetane rating. This would be like the difference between unleaded and premium gas.
check out www.biodiesel.org for more info from a great source that many gov agencies refer to.
Biodiesel - I've been using B20 for 7 years in all farm equipment, trucks, pickups etc. with no problems. BUT I use a good quality fuel from a great supplier. It has a cetane of 51 min. He puts in a winterizer year around so no problems with water accumulation in summer. As of this writing the price is 2 cents more than the standard #2 with a 40 cetane rating. This would be like the difference between unleaded and premium gas.
check out www.biodiesel.org for more info from a great source that many gov agencies refer to.
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I'm going the same direction as you: replacing my Dmax with a PSD. It's way more than a motor change, the Ford is tougher and a better value in many ways.
As far as your ULSD question: It's true (from what I've read as well) that the ULSD will allow entrainment of water more than our 500ppm sulfur diesel does now. From what I've read, and what I plan to do, is to regularly add a good Fuel Additive that will help the fuel/water separator do it's job. I think I'm going with Diesel Kleen, but will be researching the additives more...
Just to regress a bit: It still boggles my mind that my SRW F350 4x4 will have the same capacity as either a Dodge or Chevy 1Ton dually would -- your F350 DRW is going to be one stout truck! Life is going to be good back on the Ford side....
As far as your ULSD question: It's true (from what I've read as well) that the ULSD will allow entrainment of water more than our 500ppm sulfur diesel does now. From what I've read, and what I plan to do, is to regularly add a good Fuel Additive that will help the fuel/water separator do it's job. I think I'm going with Diesel Kleen, but will be researching the additives more...
Just to regress a bit: It still boggles my mind that my SRW F350 4x4 will have the same capacity as either a Dodge or Chevy 1Ton dually would -- your F350 DRW is going to be one stout truck! Life is going to be good back on the Ford side....
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Hey thanks for the replies, I was starting to think I'd written a question so stupid it was not worth response. I've done a lot of looking and thinking since I wrote this thread, particularly into the price of the new fuel, most financial journals will not speculate on a price. The Wall Street Journal states " due to uncertainties with supply and distribution problems no price can be forcasted" also 65% of the refineries have yet to shut down and re-vamp to make ULSD, which could lead to less supply this winter than last, this is without any hurricanes, and if you watch much weather channel you will know the gulf and atlantic water temperatures look to make this an active year. Any way thanks for the replies it looks like we are all in for another wild ride on the diesel price roller coaster, this may finally bring bio-fuel to the spotlight, I'm all for it.
As I told my students in the military.
"The only stupid question is the one not asked"
