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Claimed horsepower
So with all of the flashing and re-flashing Ford has done to the 6.o, does anyone think that the 6.0 makes anywhere near it's advertised 325/330 H.P? Are there any real word tests that can back up the 325/330 H.P?
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I don't think my new '06 produces that much that horsepower and it hasn't been reflashed since I've owned it. My '05 has more power. My '06 can't even get out of its own way I thinking of taking it in a seeing if anythng is wrong it does not have the head snapping power my '05 has.
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Originally Posted by 96turbo
You might want to have it looked at to see if you have a lemmon.
Seriously, my answer would have to be NO. These 6 liters do not have the claimed hp and torque they advertise. The 7.3's have by far more torque than the 6 liters. There is just no bottom end on these new engines. They are ok once wound up, but they don't get going very well. I was just talking to a friend who wrecked a 2000 F450 and had to buy a new 06 F450. His opinion was the same as mine. Our older 7.3's out pull these newer trucks. He has a welding rig on his and uses it to maintain quarry and highway equipment. He said places he could go in the older truck, he didn't have the power to go now and frequently had to have them hook it to a dozer and drag it to the down machine.
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Originally Posted by DesertDiesel
So with all of the flashing and re-flashing Ford has done to the 6.o, does anyone think that the 6.0 makes anywhere near it's advertised 325/330 H.P? Are there any real word tests that can back up the 325/330 H.P?
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Originally Posted by kw5413
Have it dyno'd an see. Anything else would be pure speculation.
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i'm gonna look into dynoing mine soon. it's completely stock so a good baseline is in order. question is what smoothing factor sae? hope noone hits the 4wd switch on the dyno... lol
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Dyno'd would be a great idea if it wasn't lifted 6" and turning 35's with 3.73's. I was just having a discussion about how it feels like I've lost power with every flash. The truck does run better, it just doesn't perform as well. My friend with an '05 feels the same way and his is stock.
I just wondered if anyone else noticed the same and had a baseline to compare advertised to actual.....
I just wondered if anyone else noticed the same and had a baseline to compare advertised to actual.....
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I don't have a calibrated base line from a dyno, but I do have a good reference point. I tow an 8000lb travel trailer (no where near the towing limits of the truck). There is a nice 7% grade going north on highway 101 coming out of San Luis Obispo, CA. The first time I took this grade with my 2004 stock truck with no reflashes (June 04 build) I was able to drive 65 mph up the grade with the trailer in tow. Now 1 1/2 years later in February this year, with several reflashes and no other modifications, towing up the same grade produces around 53 mph max. This was before any low sulfer diesel was introduced, so I can't use that for an excuse! I have definately seen a reduction in usable power. The RPM is around 3200 in 4th gear as I recall, so the engine should be in a nice section of its power curve. Otherwise the truck is running fine, no complaints.
And Ford wonders why customers are resorting to tuners on these trucks. I have never used one yet, but they are starting to look attractive to me. I really miss the performance I had when the truck was new.
And Ford wonders why customers are resorting to tuners on these trucks. I have never used one yet, but they are starting to look attractive to me. I really miss the performance I had when the truck was new.
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96Turbo, I have about the same build date as you. Have you had the 05E16 reflash done? If so, any changes. I have not taken my truck in yet for the reflash. My 5-W is only about 8,000 lb, however. This truck pulls my 5-W much better than my 96 did. Fuel mpg is about the same.
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Skipper, I agree that the power does not come on fast enough but I can't imagine not being able to go where a 7.3 did. Maybe because mine is the stick I just slap in in granny low and go if I can't go just use 4-Lo. Maybe his is an 2wd auto which I never drove.
I have a friend with a F-550 4x4 6Spd and a oil tank on back and he makes it to all the off road sites to fill machines he does need 4-Lo at times
I do wish it made more power off of idle but 1800 she wakes right up and still stomps all over my old 351W
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I have a friend with a F-550 4x4 6Spd and a oil tank on back and he makes it to all the off road sites to fill machines he does need 4-Lo at times
I do wish it made more power off of idle but 1800 she wakes right up and still stomps all over my old 351W
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Originally Posted by n6nfg
I don't have a calibrated base line from a dyno, but I do have a good reference point. I tow an 8000lb travel trailer (no where near the towing limits of the truck). There is a nice 7% grade going north on highway 101 coming out of San Luis Obispo, CA. The first time I took this grade with my 2004 stock truck with no reflashes (June 04 build) I was able to drive 65 mph up the grade with the trailer in tow. Now 1 1/2 years later in February this year, with several reflashes and no other modifications, towing up the same grade produces around 53 mph max. This was before any low sulfer diesel was introduced, so I can't use that for an excuse! I have definately seen a reduction in usable power. The RPM is around 3200 in 4th gear as I recall, so the engine should be in a nice section of its power curve. Otherwise the truck is running fine, no complaints.
And Ford wonders why customers are resorting to tuners on these trucks. I have never used one yet, but they are starting to look attractive to me. I really miss the performance I had when the truck was new.
And Ford wonders why customers are resorting to tuners on these trucks. I have never used one yet, but they are starting to look attractive to me. I really miss the performance I had when the truck was new.
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Originally Posted by Kentucky Skipper
I don't know what good that would do him.
Seriously, my answer would have to be NO. These 6 liters do not have the claimed hp and torque they advertise. The 7.3's have by far more torque than the 6 liters. There is just no bottom end on these new engines. They are ok once wound up, but they don't get going very well. I was just talking to a friend who wrecked a 2000 F450 and had to buy a new 06 F450. His opinion was the same as mine. Our older 7.3's out pull these newer trucks. He has a welding rig on his and uses it to maintain quarry and highway equipment. He said places he could go in the older truck, he didn't have the power to go now and frequently had to have them hook it to a dozer and drag it to the down machine.
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Seriously, my answer would have to be NO. These 6 liters do not have the claimed hp and torque they advertise. The 7.3's have by far more torque than the 6 liters. There is just no bottom end on these new engines. They are ok once wound up, but they don't get going very well. I was just talking to a friend who wrecked a 2000 F450 and had to buy a new 06 F450. His opinion was the same as mine. Our older 7.3's out pull these newer trucks. He has a welding rig on his and uses it to maintain quarry and highway equipment. He said places he could go in the older truck, he didn't have the power to go now and frequently had to have them hook it to a dozer and drag it to the down machine.
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After all the crappy flashes they threw at my '04 I won't let them do another one. I have my Bully Dog Triple Dog working great, mileage @18.6 in town and plenty of power when I want it. Towing only became an issue after that EGR flash. I won't do the EBS flash.