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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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DVD Copying?

I recenlty bought one of those DVD/VCR combo units that lets you burn DVDs. I thought I would use it to copy all my kids VHS tapes (Disney movies, etc) to DVD so he could watch them while we are driving in the portable DVD player. That is where I ran into the problem, they wont copy because they are encrypted with some copyright protection software thing??? Is there anyway around this? I already bought the videos once, now I just want to use them. Anyone have any simple solutions????

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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I figured it would only do that the other way around. There's no 'software' on a vhs tape. It's a ribbon with frames piled up one after another. I guess they could rig it somehow, but...

So what you're saying is that it won't let you copy from VHS to DVD? That's a new one to me.

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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Yes, I am able to burn DVD's from non-copyrighted VHS tapes (like family videos, b-day parties, etc..), but not the store bought ones. I compared the two and they look identical, but one actually had a sticker on it saying it was encrypted with anti copying junk. I am a techo illiterate, so I have no idea what to do next????

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Yes IIRC, the "Disney" tapes all have copyguard on them.

I can copy from VHS to Beta back to VHS or to DVD but that is just one more media to run thru.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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You could try running the signal through another VCR first. I.e., VCR w/Disney tape -> VCR no tape -> DVD recorder. My friend did this with DVD's, and it seemed to strip the signal interference that doesn't allow you to make a good copy of a DVD to a VHS. It might work on VHS tapes as well.

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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maybe get a vid capture card and run it through the puter
 
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Longneck
I recenlty bought one of those DVD/VCR combo units that lets you burn DVDs. I thought I would use it to copy all my kids VHS tapes (Disney movies, etc) to DVD so he could watch them while we are driving in the portable DVD player. That is where I ran into the problem, they wont copy because they are encrypted with some copyright protection software thing??? Is there anyway around this? I already bought the videos once, now I just want to use them. Anyone have any simple solutions????

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Longneck
Do you have the DVR connected to the internet?

I have a DVR and found that when it is connected to the internet that is how they compare to see if it is copy protected. Disconnect it from the internet and try again.
I have been able to use this method on movies I recorded off of TMC.
I tried copying an Old Jerry Lewis movie and it said it was copy protected. I deleted it, then next time it was on I recorded it again, but did not have the internet connected and it worked fine...
Not sure if this is a fool proof way of bypassing the copy protection, but since I started disconnecting the internet before trying to burn a DVD I have had no problems.

Try it and Let me know.. I want to know if it works for sure or if I have been lucky.

By the way my DVR is an LG brand..
 
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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One of the copyguard functions on old VHS tapes is a modified sync pulse that some devices will not work with. There are inline devices available that will restore the sync pulse.
 

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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I've got a couple of DVD recorders and tried copying some of my VHS movies. A few of them worked but, some others didn't. In fact, the DVD recorder opened a window on the tv screen that said, copyright protected, you cannot record off this media, or something like that. You just have to try each and everyone and see what does and what doesn't.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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Like jake00 mentioned, you will most likely need to hook up a VCR through a video capture device and record to your computer hard drive then burn a DVD on the computer.

I made the same mistake a few years ago. We have many VHS tapes dating back quite a few years and I wanted to preserve them to DVD. Got a DVD/VHS recorder and ran into the DRM (digital rights managment) built into the machine.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Torque1st
One of the copyguard functions on old VHS tapes is a modified sync pulse that some devices will not work with. There are inline devices available that will restore the sync pulse.
Can you tell me more about these inline devices? Are they "black market" or something I can buy at Radio Shack?

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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Strictly black market, they can be found in the back of magazines and online, probably even ebay. Google "copyguard" or "sync pulse" or "video stabilizer".
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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Thanks for the google search suggestions, a bunch of products came up & E-bay has a bunch too. It looks like I may have to get one, I tried to go from VCR to VCR to DVD/R last night, but the picture quality just kept fading in and out.

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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 02:10 AM
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It's called Macrovision. I wouldn't go out and buy a PC capture card just yet, unless you can confirm that the macrovision can be disabled on it or it doesn't have it, as you'll run into the same problem. The stabilizer should work though.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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Tell ya what I did to get around this...I just ran the output from my VCR through one of those $18 devices you can get at Walmart that enables you to connect a DVD player to a TV that doesn't have AV jacks. From there I ran it (the coax output from the device) into my DVD recorder (a stand-alone Lite-ON unit), then the coax output from my DVD recorder into my TV so I could see watch it while recording it. Seems like it might have introduce a slight background noise, but the video is fine. It's worth a try.

Basically, this device I'm referring to is just an A/C powered box that accepts a/v cable inputs and sends the output via coax to your TV that doesn't have A/V jacks on it. I believe the two that I've bought are either Phillips or Magnavox brand. I'll double-check when I get home from work in about an hour.

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