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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Changing axle ratio

Im not sure if this has been discussed yet ,but im having a hard time getting the info from dealers on the axle ratio of a truck.They mostly say they dont know it.What i want to know from here is what do i look for on the tag so to conferm the axle ratio OR if i find the "perfect"truck can i change the axle to a 4:10 and not have to worry about the computer getting put in a spin?Im looking for a F350 c/c 4x4 deisel from the yrs.2000------2003 with the 7.3 auto.Ive found quite a few but not knowing if i can swap gear sets has put me off...Thanks a bunch for the info...................Paul Im wanting this for towing a cargo trailer with a camper
 
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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below is the list of axle codes...these are found on the drivers door jamb sticker

Axle Type
31 — 3.73 non-limited slip, F-250/Excursion
C1 — 3.73 limited slip, F-250/Excursion
32 — 4.10 non-limited slip, F-250
C2 — 4.10 limited slip, F-250/Excursion
33 — 4.30 non-limited slip, F-250
C3 — 4.30 limited slip, F-250/Excursion
36 — 4.56 non-limited slip, F-250
C6 — 4.56 limited slip, F-250
41 — 3.73 non-limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)
D1 — 3.73 limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)
42 — 4.10 non-limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)
D2 — 4.10 limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)
43 — 4.30 non-limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)
D3 — 4.30 limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)
46 — 4.56 non-limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)
D6 — 4.56 limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)
61 — 3.73 non-limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)
F1 — 3.73 limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)
62 — 4.10 non-limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)
F2 — 4.10 limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)
63 — 4.30 non-limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)
66 — 4.56 non-limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)
F6 — 4.56 limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)
 
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 12:46 AM
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The simple answer is they will all have 3.73 gears. All single rear wheel diesels have 3.73's. You can change the gears in all of them if you want. It'll be about $1000-$1800 total.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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I know my SD tows great, but the mnts kill me.....I just looked in the door jam and saw C1 .....thanks autobahn. I kinda knew it was the 3.73, but couldn't remember. with the V10 the trucks got the gutts but long uphill grades over the Sierras kill me. I'm going to switch to the 4.1 or .3 to get more torq out of this gas eating beast. thanks to V10man I have an est for the cost...
 
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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FMC,

It is doable but you really better want to. It is quite expensive especially for the 4X4's. Search and you will find threads on the subject.

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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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I just purchased a 1994 Ford F350 with a 7.3 TD and a 5 speed. Stock tires and turns 2,000 at 55 mph. I looked at the tags on the Diff but can't find anything to decifer the codes. There's 2 lines, first one is "SS132G" and the second is "L101024E09". Can anyone tell me what axle this is and what the gear ratio is and if it is limited slip or not?
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FMC
What i want to know from here is what do i look for on the tag so to conferm the axle ratio OR if i find the "perfect"truck can i change the axle to a 4:10 and not have to worry about the computer getting put in a spin?Im looking for a F350 c/c 4x4 deisel from the yrs.2000------2003 with the 7.3 auto.Ive found quite a few but not knowing if i can swap gear sets has put me off...Thanks a bunch for the info...................Paul Im wanting this for towing a cargo trailer with a camper
As other folks have mentioned, You can swap gears without any issues. All the SRW SD's have the 10.50" rear.

Also regarding the computer question. No issue...as the computer only knows what the sensor tells it...and does not account for gear ratio.

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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by biz4two
As other folks have mentioned, You can swap gears without any issues. All the SRW SD's have the 10.50" rear.

Also regarding the computer question. No issue...as the computer only knows what the sensor tells it...and does not account for gear ratio.
Actually the computer does know. It uses that information to do shift timing and such. True, the speedo won't know the diff (pun intended) but you still need to change the value in the ECU when you regear...
 
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Can someone explain what is involved in swapping out the gears? do they have to swap the axles themselves or do they open up the differentials and swap out the gears inside? I am interested in going for the 4.10's.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Off topic question, do 4.30 gears exist for the F250 SRW? I have searched Ford, Motive, National driveline, Precision gear, and superior axle to no avail.
 
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Originally Posted by PHWLEE
Can someone explain what is involved in swapping out the gears? do they have to swap the axles themselves or do they open up the differentials and swap out the gears inside? I am interested in going for the 4.10's.
Just swap the gears (ring and pinion plus install kit) is all that is needed. The axles remain the same.

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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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Off topic question, do 4.30 gears exist for the F250 SRW? I have searched Ford, Motive, National driveline, Precision gear, and superior axle to no avail.
The only place I buy my gears from...and that is Randy's Ring & Pinion. Here is the link: http://www.ringpinion.com/

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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CmprSpecial
Actually the computer does know. It uses that information to do shift timing and such. True, the speedo won't know the diff (pun intended) but you still need to change the value in the ECU when you regear...
According to the research that I have done using a FORD service manual, we are both correct in a sense.

For Gas engines: The instrument cluster provides power to the speed control indicator. On gasoline vehicles, the speed control indicator is controlled by the speed control module. When the speed control is engaged, the speed control module provides the instrument cluster with a ground signal and illuminates the speed control indicator.
For Diesel Engines: On diesel vehicles, the speed control indicator is controlled by the PCM. When the speed control is engaged, the PCM provides a ground to the instrument cluster and illuminates the speed control indicator.
Now...I could be thinking the wrong stuff here, so please let me know. I just want to have the correct information.

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