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Poor Truck
Last night i noticed about an 8" puddle of oil while the truck sat at a friends house for about an hour. Drove home and noticed a puddle start forming almost instantly and could smell burnt oil and also see a trail of little oil drops from where i pulled into the drive way. It was dark so i just took the car to the bar. This morning looked at it and saw oil all undernieth the truck and looked at the engine. It seems to be coming from the top of the engine somewhere undernieth the turbo. I didn't look to hard cause i called the stealership and they said to bring it in and the warrenty will cover it. Any ideas what it could be, i know i didn't give to many details. The truck pulls are tonight, looks like I'll be taking the car thier. That's going to be embarresing. Oh well.
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From: Elverson, PA
Originally Posted by vloney
your choices are, turbo, turbo o-rings, pedestal, air charge hoses and/or clamps, high pressure oil pump, high pressure oil pump o-rings and/or fittings, and high pressure reservoir.
Are you sure that it's coming from the turbo area - or is there lots of oil down in the engine valley too?? If the valley is dry and it's just back by the turbo - then you've got a pedistal o-ring leak... but the volume of oil you describe makes me think something with the High Pressure Oil system is leaking. It is towards the front of the motor - and usually makes a mess of the whole engine valley when it springs a leak
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From: Tucson, AZ
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Pedestal leak or HPOP most likely.. I've had them both on my '03 and it only has 45k on it..
Good thing you get 5 yr/100k on the motor!
I'm with you though the ***** is embarassing when it leaves all that oil. I towed my toy hauler with it leaking like that and I had to pull over every so often to add oil. Oil got all over the under carriage of the truck, and my toy hauler
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Good thing you get 5 yr/100k on the motor!
I'm with you though the ***** is embarassing when it leaves all that oil. I towed my toy hauler with it leaking like that and I had to pull over every so often to add oil. Oil got all over the under carriage of the truck, and my toy hauler
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From: La La Land
I've got a dog in this fight, too!
Just this past week, mine started leaving the eight-inch oil spot everywhere I go, and I don't have time this week to put it down for the "cure", whatever it turns out to be.
Valley has got a bunch in it, though, so a likely source is the HPOP fittings and o-rings.
Slipping a big piece of cardboard under it every stop is getting embarrassing, too! I have gone through about a gallon of Delo this week, with my tailgate collecting oily dust, and I've been thinking about the windshields of those guys on the freeway behind me.
Blackstone will be surprised when I report a few GALLONS of make-up for the next period, but I should get a superb report! ;-)))
Anyone want to remind me what o-rings I'll need, with part numbers and best sources?
Thanks guys!
(A frustrated) Pop
Just this past week, mine started leaving the eight-inch oil spot everywhere I go, and I don't have time this week to put it down for the "cure", whatever it turns out to be.
Valley has got a bunch in it, though, so a likely source is the HPOP fittings and o-rings.
Slipping a big piece of cardboard under it every stop is getting embarrassing, too! I have gone through about a gallon of Delo this week, with my tailgate collecting oily dust, and I've been thinking about the windshields of those guys on the freeway behind me.
Blackstone will be surprised when I report a few GALLONS of make-up for the next period, but I should get a superb report! ;-)))
Anyone want to remind me what o-rings I'll need, with part numbers and best sources?
Thanks guys!
(A frustrated) Pop
Last edited by SpringerPop; Jun 18, 2006 at 01:39 PM.
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From: 21791
here is this, from my part list-
High Pressure Oil Supply Fittings
(Ford) F4TZ-9N332-A (elbows on cylinder head oil rails)
(Ford) F4TZ-9C402-A (HP oil pump fitting and o-ring)
here is this : http://www.puredieselpower.com/catal...roducts_id=101
High Pressure Oil Supply Fittings
(Ford) F4TZ-9N332-A (elbows on cylinder head oil rails)
(Ford) F4TZ-9C402-A (HP oil pump fitting and o-ring)
here is this : http://www.puredieselpower.com/catal...roducts_id=101
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From: La La Land
Kris, I knew if anyone had it off the top of his head, it would be you.
The truck is outside idling right now to develop some oil leak "flow", but there doesn't appear to be anything flowing from the front of the valley towards the rear, and the fittings on the HPOP, the heads, and the HPOP hoses themselves don't look like they have a leak, so it's likely toward the rear. Yea, maybe the turbo has to come off, but I want to try one more thing first.
I realized that the HPX hose is the old flex one. Though the fittings look like they're not the source of the leak, the plastic sheathing (like over the wire looms) that they put over it may be hiding a leak between the fitting and the hose at the crimp. I'll pull the hose and put the caps on the fittings and try see what tomorrow brings. I've got a 150-mile run to make in the morning, so I'll know soon enough.
Kris, if I remember right, there are some slightly oversize rings for the pedestal to make it more goof-proof, is that correct? Got a source for both the uppers and lowers?
Thanks,
Pop
The truck is outside idling right now to develop some oil leak "flow", but there doesn't appear to be anything flowing from the front of the valley towards the rear, and the fittings on the HPOP, the heads, and the HPOP hoses themselves don't look like they have a leak, so it's likely toward the rear. Yea, maybe the turbo has to come off, but I want to try one more thing first.
I realized that the HPX hose is the old flex one. Though the fittings look like they're not the source of the leak, the plastic sheathing (like over the wire looms) that they put over it may be hiding a leak between the fitting and the hose at the crimp. I'll pull the hose and put the caps on the fittings and try see what tomorrow brings. I've got a 150-mile run to make in the morning, so I'll know soon enough.
Kris, if I remember right, there are some slightly oversize rings for the pedestal to make it more goof-proof, is that correct? Got a source for both the uppers and lowers?
Thanks,
Pop
Last edited by SpringerPop; Jun 18, 2006 at 02:35 PM.
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if that HPX is the cause, i would go with the SS one. the manufacturer is KCM diesel perf. , and it happens that they are the ones that make the oversize o-ring kit, and it has worked for me. http://members.***.net/kcmdieselperformance/gaskets.htm scroll to "turbo bolt and o-ring kit"
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From: La La Land
OK, correction.
After letting it idle in the driveway for a few minutes, I AM seeing flow from the front of the valley rearward.
As I earlier stated, the two high-pressure hoses seem OK, end to end. What else up there leaks oil from the HPOP area? I'm going to have to pull the fuel filter to get a better idea, but not today, as it's in the high 90's outside, and there's no shade for this project.
At this point, I don't care what I have to do, cause it now appears I WON'T have to pull the turbine.
Pop
After letting it idle in the driveway for a few minutes, I AM seeing flow from the front of the valley rearward.
As I earlier stated, the two high-pressure hoses seem OK, end to end. What else up there leaks oil from the HPOP area? I'm going to have to pull the fuel filter to get a better idea, but not today, as it's in the high 90's outside, and there's no shade for this project.
At this point, I don't care what I have to do, cause it now appears I WON'T have to pull the turbine.
Pop
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Originally Posted by SpringerPop
Also, now that I think about it, this could be an IPR o-ring.
Kris, got that p/n, too?
Thanks,
Pop
Kris, got that p/n, too?
Thanks,
Pop
IPR O-Ring Kit (for when IPR valve replacement is not required)
(Ford) F6TZ-9C977-AN (F6TZ-9C977-AA?)
(International) 1825806C92 (1825806C91?)
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From: La La Land
Kris,
Such you've got such a great memory (you're young), got a link to some photos of the rear of an HPOP?
I think I have my leak located (generally), but I can't find my inspection mirror to get down there to see it up close. If I had a photo, I could identify the location of the leak. A drip every five seconds (I saw it) isn't such a good thing.
Pop
Such you've got such a great memory (you're young), got a link to some photos of the rear of an HPOP?
I think I have my leak located (generally), but I can't find my inspection mirror to get down there to see it up close. If I had a photo, I could identify the location of the leak. A drip every five seconds (I saw it) isn't such a good thing.
Pop
