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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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How long to cool down?

I'm curious as to how long I should let the truck cool down after running a long time. I tend to let it run for at least five minutes before turning off, but is it enough?

On the flip side, I'm getting gauges shortly... what temp should I let the pyro run down to before I turn off?

A timer isn't an option right now... gotta pay off the exhaust & gauges first .

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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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I don't know. After my trips up and back to the cabin which is 4.5 hours, when I get there I just shut it off.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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Well, I idle my truck for the longest time while hooking up stuff to the hitch and the lowest it has got is about 300 - 350. So, I timed how long it should take it it was about 3 mins, give or take depending on ambient temp. Personally I think that 5 mins is more than enough to reach that temp
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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If you can believe what you read about the old turbos with plain bearings and the newer turbos with better bearings cool down isn't supposed to be an issue. Which is why when I get to my destination I still screw around with the DVD player, or the CD, or the Navigation System for two minutes and then shut down.

It's insurance.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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Just another reason I did not want a diesel...but not tomake this a bashing post...I know for turbo cars you can buy a timer that will alow the vehicle to run a determined time..then shut off. The alarm-remote start I put in my Ex allows for this as well.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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Well, I would asume it is the oil that is cooking in the turbo. That is why I timed it and now run it for a couple minutes before shutdown. However I have an EGT gauge too.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt M, PA
Just another reason I did not want a diesel...but not tomake this a bashing post...I know for turbo cars you can buy a timer that will alow the vehicle to run a determined time..then shut off. The alarm-remote start I put in my Ex allows for this as well.
I don't follow your reasoning. What does this have to do with diesel? You can buy a turbo timer and it doesn't say "For Diesel Only." does it? I had that same question with a turbo Merkur and now my 99 E300 turbodiesel. IMO the turbo is kinda stupid and if you don't say a word, it doesn't know if it is being stuck on a gas or diesel vehicle. If it is lubricated by oil, the oil can cook in the turbo. When I made a quarter mile pass with my 89 Merkur XR4Ti, the exhaust manifold glowed red and the exhaust section of the turbo did too. The turbo was dumb and didn't know if it was on a gas car or not but it siezed up just the same.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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aklim...what I meant was that this was another part of the reason I did not want a diesel. I did not want to deal with the warm uo-cool down turbo part. I did not mean that as a bashing comment on diesels. I had a car with a turbo prior to the availability of the timers and it was a pain. (Now Superchargers...we're talkin'!)

And you're right..a turbo timer works on a car or truck or whatever. The only reason I mentioned the timer idea was for those that may not have been familiar with such, and maybe it would save them sitting in the car waiting for the turbo to cool.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt M, PA
aklim...what I meant was that this was another part of the reason I did not want a diesel. I did not want to deal with the warm uo-cool down turbo part. I did not mean that as a bashing comment on diesels. I had a car with a turbo prior to the availability of the timers and it was a pain. (Now Superchargers...we're talkin'!)

And you're right..a turbo timer works on a car or truck or whatever. The only reason I mentioned the timer idea was for those that may not have been familiar with such, and maybe it would save them sitting in the car waiting for the turbo to cool.
Didn't think it was bashing. I personally would have used gas if I didn't have to tow that heavy of a load. However, ANY turbo would have to be cooled down be it gas or diesel.

IMO, it is a toss up. Turbos add complexity but utilize exhaust gasses which Superchargers don't and so the parasitic drag. Turbos have longer spool up times which would mandate a "big and little" or sequential turbo system like the new 6.4L should be having thus add more complexity. However, superchargers, IMO would be better in bigger cars which can afford some parasitic drag as opposed to say a 2 litre car.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Aklim..I have the V10 is my Excursion as I tow short distances and many use it as a car. Only a few times a year do I travel with my car trailer.

I have a factory Supercharged 2003 Cobra as well. 400 HP out of a 4.6.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt M, PA
Aklim..I have the V10 is my Excursion as I tow short distances and many use it as a car. Only a few times a year do I travel with my car trailer.

I have a factory Supercharged 2003 Cobra as well. 400 HP out of a 4.6.
At the wheels or at the crank? I am making 410 at the wheels on my 91 Firebird with a 383 and a few other mods which are now in my Vette. All NA.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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Rated by Ford at 390. I'm sure that's at the crank. I did an intake set-up that supposed to worth 35..according to thedyno sheet that came with it. I'm guessing the 4.6 is about 261 CI. It has 4 valve heads, intercooler.

These cars are raelly under rated. Came with the Viper 6 speed, indepentant rear suspension. With a mix of highway-city, I get 20MPG regularly.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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... the lowest it has got is about 300 - 350. So, I timed how long it should take it it was about 3 mins, give or take...
Aklim,
Many thanks... this is what I was looking for. Thanks a bunch.
Larry
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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It is not the oil cooking the turbo it is the hot exhaust gas. Let the truck cool down briefly. Unless you have it wide open under full load no need to let it idle for 5 min. Watch your exh temp guage, It is only going to get so cool even at idle. Water temp too. I load test diesels full load for 4 hours non stop, They only take 2-3 mins to cool down to where they are not going to get any cooler.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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I have an EDGE module on mine which has a temp sensitive turbo timer. It shuts the engine off at 400 degrees. I've yet to hear it idle for more than 2 mins. The two minute idle was after a quarter mile run where I disabled the EGT backdown so she got up to about 1430-1450, well past the 1250 EGT that Ford reccomends. It was only one quarter mile pass though. Had to see what she could do. Usually, I don't hear it idle for more than a minute, even after pulling an 8000 lb trailer.
 
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