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Old May 27, 2006 | 02:12 AM
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New MAC lightning style catback installed, WOW!!!

I received my new Mac catback at 7:01pm and had it installed and running at 9:40pm. This system is great, very muscular sounding and no interior drone. I even noticed better response of the line. This is what a 300hp engine should sound like. I will post some pics tommorow.
 
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Old May 27, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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Nice! Looking forward to those pix.
 
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Old May 30, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Mac catback




The Mac sounds muscular at startup and has a deep throaty rumble at take-off and WOT without any drone or interior resonance. I also noticed better acceleration off the line and improved passing power. With the stock exhaust on I was running 50 mph at 1750 rpm, and now with the MAC catback I running 50 mph at 1250 rpm. Don’t know if the mpg has improved since I can’t seem to get my foot off of it, still having too much fun.

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Old May 30, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Looks good glad to hear your having fun with it im sure i would too
 
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Old May 31, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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I've got to raise the B.S. Flag here...there is absolutely no way that your exhaust will change your RPM's at any speed! Your RPM's are predetermined by your transmission, rear gears and your tires. Exhuast has nothing to do with your RPM's and especially a whopping 500 RPM difference.

However, the exhaust looks sweet. Enjoy the sound and additional power.

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Old May 31, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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It is probably because the added power allows him to be in 4th instead of 3rd.
 
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Old May 31, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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[unscientific opinion]Aftermarket exhaust systems most definately impact rpm levels. With the gases no longer held back, you do not have to "force" (ie higher revs) the gases through the muffler to go faster. No matter what vehicle it has been, or what manufacturer, an aftermarket exhaust kit has always helped in this department.[unscientific opinion done]
 
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Old May 31, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Schmidtty
I've got to raise the B.S. Flag here...there is absolutely no way that your exhaust will change your RPM's at any speed! Your RPM's are predetermined by your transmission, rear gears and your tires. Exhuast has nothing to do with your RPM's and especially a whopping 500 RPM difference.

However, the exhaust looks sweet. Enjoy the sound and additional power.

Schmidtty
What WheelMa1 stated is exactly what I'm experiencing. I no longer need to step into it as much to get up to speed. Before the catback install I made careful note of speed, rpm’s, mpg, throttle response, etc. so I could see for myself weather I made a sound purchase or threw my hard earned cash out the window. I’m pleasantly surprised with it’s performance and happy with my purchase.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
 
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Flag is still thrown...

I have a 2005 FX4 5.4L...I have a custom Magnaflow Exhaust (lightning style), FRAMBoost CAI and my favorite modification the EDGE Programmer. I am making way more HP than stock with this set-up and my truck still runs the same RPM's at any given speed that it did when it was bone stock. You might be able to persuade me that a change was of say 40-50 RPM's were seen after some modifications, but 500 RPM's with just an exhaust change??? NOT A CHANCE!

The only way to see a 500 RPM raise or drop is to change the gears in the rear end, or a change to a bigger wheel/tire combo. Come on people!

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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Once the converter locks-up, the RPM will be the same.

If the converter isn't locked-up, you can induce some additional/reduced slippage with the throttle. But 500 rpm is a lot...
 
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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500 rpm drop, no way...you sure you didn't have the overdrive turned off before, and then now you have it on during your 50mph test?

I had the Magnaflow lightning style side exit cat back and did not see a big rpm drop like that.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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I throw the BS flag as well, I've done several exhausts on several vehicles, never seen an RPM drop of any kind.

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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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No mercy...


Assuming you are in Drive at freeway speeds, rpm is a function of rear end gearing, tire size (diameter), converter slippage, and final drive ratio after converter lockup.

HP has nothing to do with it...except for top fuelers/funny cars that spin their slicks so fast that they grow in diameter, thus changing the final drive ratio.

BUT...

At 50 mph, you may not have been locking up your converter...so in theory, the added hp you gained allowed for less throttle to maintain 50 mph, which told the computer to lock up your converter...hence, the 500 rpm change.

Ya think?
 
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by The Oldtimer
No mercy...


Assuming you are in Drive at freeway speeds, rpm is a function of rear end gearing, tire size (diameter), converter slippage, and final drive ratio after converter lockup.

HP has nothing to do with it...except for top fuelers/funny cars that spin their slicks so fast that they grow in diameter, thus changing the final drive ratio.

BUT...

At 50 mph, you may not have been locking up your converter...so in theory, the added hp you gained allowed for less throttle to maintain 50 mph, which told the computer to lock up your converter...hence, the 500 rpm change.

Ya think?
Oldtimer's explanation is how I should have stated my findings. Crusing at a steady 50 mph just tapping the throttle 1250 rpm. To matain the same speed before the catback install I was in the throttle a bit more at 1750 rpm. I'm not trying to pull anyones chain here I'm just letting you know what I'm seeing. Took it out for a ride today, crusing at 75 mph @ 2000 rpm.

2005 F150 Scab 2x4, 5.4L, 3.55 L.S.
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18" MB wheels
BFG 275/65/R18 tires


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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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I'll add that you've got a great-looking setup.

I've got some Magnaflow duals that exit behind the tire and they don't look nearly as nice...just wish I could route them the way you did...not really possible on an Expedition, though, thanks to the frame rail.
 
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