Need Help - Electrical draw
#1
Need Help - Electrical draw
Couldn't find a similar proble through search and ay help would be great.
03 f350 XLT 6.8L 14k miles <- (no typo)
Red Top Optima
I have had a draw that completely killed the stock battery as well as the first Red top. The Optima was under warranty so I got a new on free, but I am loathe to install it without discovering the source first. I went to check for draw but my multimeter is dead so I had to use the old test lamp method until tomorrow. I isolated the draw to fuse 35, the gauge cluster dome light circuit (of course) but have not been able to isolate it further. Here are a few things that have happened and I have tried:
Radio was found on at full volume after truck sat for 3 days
dome light on for no reason after truck sat for a few days
glove box light on for no reason with box closed
with test lamp in line between - terminal and ground cable there is a ticking noise from the gauge cluster.
if I disconnect the radio the ticking turns to a high pitched wail
removed all bulbs and disconnected light switches, draw remains
If I pull the fuse the draw disappears
we had the windshield replaced and it leaked into the dash and flooded the glove box and behind the dash
thats about all I can think of for now, anything ring a bell????
THANKS!!!!!
Andy
03 f350 XLT 6.8L 14k miles <- (no typo)
Red Top Optima
I have had a draw that completely killed the stock battery as well as the first Red top. The Optima was under warranty so I got a new on free, but I am loathe to install it without discovering the source first. I went to check for draw but my multimeter is dead so I had to use the old test lamp method until tomorrow. I isolated the draw to fuse 35, the gauge cluster dome light circuit (of course) but have not been able to isolate it further. Here are a few things that have happened and I have tried:
Radio was found on at full volume after truck sat for 3 days
dome light on for no reason after truck sat for a few days
glove box light on for no reason with box closed
with test lamp in line between - terminal and ground cable there is a ticking noise from the gauge cluster.
if I disconnect the radio the ticking turns to a high pitched wail
removed all bulbs and disconnected light switches, draw remains
If I pull the fuse the draw disappears
we had the windshield replaced and it leaked into the dash and flooded the glove box and behind the dash
thats about all I can think of for now, anything ring a bell????
THANKS!!!!!
Andy
#2
The only thing I can think of that all of these have in common is that they are all part of the accessory delay circuit, which allows the power to remain on for 10 minutes after the vehicle is shut-off. This is also the same circuit that is supposed to remove all power from most of the electrical system, in case you leave your headlights on, it's supposed to shut everything down. I'm not exactly sure, but I believe it's part of the vehicle security module (VSM) on vehicles with remote keyless entry (RKE), or part of a Generic Electronics Module on vehicles that don't have RKE. The VSM is located to the right of the gas pedal above the tranny hump. I'm not exactly sure where the GEM is. If this got water in it then it may be leaving the power active, draining your battery. You would have to get up there and check it out to be sure.
#3
Well ,within the instrument cluster are 2 relays that are not repairable(need a whole new instrument cluster) if its that.you should put fuse 35 back in and the battery.start the truck with radio on,shut the truck off.see if the acces delay shuts down after 5 mins or if you open the door of the truck.
If it doesn't, pull fuse 41 while its playing, if it shuts down then you have isolated it to those relays which are not replaceable. K115 and k333 are the relays ,but you only see them on a wiring diagram.they are internal to the instrument cluster.
Rich
If it doesn't, pull fuse 41 while its playing, if it shuts down then you have isolated it to those relays which are not replaceable. K115 and k333 are the relays ,but you only see them on a wiring diagram.they are internal to the instrument cluster.
Rich