Notices
Offroad & 4x4
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Need Some Flex

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 18, 2006 | 11:52 PM
  #1  
Saleen428's Avatar
Saleen428
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Need Some Flex

Need some help with my suspension. I have a 1995 F350 Crew Cab with a Tuff Country 4" lift. The suspension is so stiff it is almost unbearable. The lift kit was supposed to be softer than stock but is not. It it the front leafs that are killing me. The back has an add a leaf and this did not seam to really affect the ride. I know the stock suspension was pretty stiff but this is ridiculous.

I originally had Monotube shocks and then went to RS9000 but no relief. What can I do to get some flex back? I will have custom leafs made if i have to, but am looking for other options first. Shackles or eye bushings??? not sure if swapping thee will do any good.

Are there other Brands that have a better leaf pack?
 
Reply
Old May 19, 2006 | 12:53 AM
  #2  
ivanribic's Avatar
ivanribic
Post Fiend
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 11,945
Likes: 3
From: Spokane, WA
Skyjacker springs flex and ride 10X better than Tuff Country. See my flex gallery for pics of how the Skyjackers flex. The shocks you have are good, keep them but those springs have to go.
 
Reply
Old May 19, 2006 | 08:38 AM
  #3  
KubotaOrange76's Avatar
KubotaOrange76
Its Comin Right for us!
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,120
Likes: 2,613
From: GA
any of the lift companies' lift packs are going to ride like hell in that truck

the skyjackers are stiff as hell too, ive ridden in two crew cabs with them, thats even with a heavy ranchand and a winch hanging off the front

its the short foward shackle design plus a crappy shackle angle and the extremely stiff packs designed to hold that truck up

they ride like hell stock...the only thing your going to be able to do to help smooth the ride is a shackle reversal, with stock springs, which will improve the rie some over stock. or you can use superduty (99-04) front leaves and that will help tremendously combined with a shackle reversal
 
Reply
Old May 19, 2006 | 10:26 AM
  #4  
Saleen428's Avatar
Saleen428
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by KubotaOrange76

they ride like hell stock...the only thing your going to be able to do to help smooth the ride is a shackle reversal, with stock springs, which will improve the rie some over stock. or you can use superduty (99-04) front leaves and that will help tremendously combined with a shackle reversal
I am a nubie so I will need more details.

What is needed for a front shackle reversal? Are the superduty springs a direct fit? What amount of lift will be attained?
 
Reply
Old May 19, 2006 | 10:31 AM
  #5  
Saleen428's Avatar
Saleen428
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by ivanribic
Skyjacker springs flex and ride 10X better than Tuff Country. See my flex gallery for pics of how the Skyjackers flex. The shocks you have are good, keep them but those springs have to go.
Orange stated that part of the problem is the front shackle orientation. Does your '78 have the same front shackle setup as a '95?

Going with Skyjackers would be much cheaper than going with custom leaf packs. 10x better than Tuff Country is a big number....is it really that much softer than Tuff's?
 
Reply
Old May 19, 2006 | 12:36 PM
  #6  
RawPower's Avatar
RawPower
Postmaster
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,976
Likes: 0
From: Rep. of Texas
no the shackles on a 78 are a lot better. the late 80's (i think) to 97 have the worst shackle designs ever.

he said 10x better, not 10x softer... and yes, they are 10x better
 
Reply
Old May 19, 2006 | 12:48 PM
  #7  
KubotaOrange76's Avatar
KubotaOrange76
Its Comin Right for us!
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,120
Likes: 2,613
From: GA
it woulnt be worth switching springs, the ride will still be 10x stiffer than stock with a multi leaf arched lift spring no matter which brand

mine and ivans trucks ride smoother just because of the shackles being being the axle, as the axle hits a bump at speed, its allowed to move back like it wants to, with the shackle foward design the axle has to move foward as it compresses, which fights itself riding down the road

the main reason the ride is so bad is the length of those shackles, the crappy angle(you cant get a good angle with the design because of the way its up inside the frame) and the shackle foward design.

you can either fab or buy a shackle reversal kit. sky manufacturing offers a 2 and 4" lift version i think, and oru offers one too. it converts the suspension to be like the pre 80 leaf sprung solid axle trucks and the 99 and up superduties.

if you want to keep your current lift i would find a set of stock springs(or use your old ones) and do the shackle reversal. it will ride smoother than stock

i hope this helps out
 
Reply
Old May 20, 2006 | 11:42 AM
  #8  
rebocardo's Avatar
rebocardo
Post Fiend
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 13,873
Likes: 3
From: Atlanta GA
Buying a C-D range tire in the 33+ inch range and airing it down to 40 psi or less softens the ride a lot on trucks with stiff suspensions. You just have to run the line between underflated and soft ride. Looking at the footprint and feeling the tire after a highway run lets you know.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old May 20, 2006 | 02:44 PM
  #9  
KubotaOrange76's Avatar
KubotaOrange76
Its Comin Right for us!
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,120
Likes: 2,613
From: GA
i agree, on my 97 f-350, there was a noticable differance between the stock sized e range tires and the 35" d ranged tires....but the ride was still terrible
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2006 | 12:18 AM
  #10  
Saleen428's Avatar
Saleen428
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by KubotaOrange76
i agree, on my 97 f-350, there was a noticable differance between the stock sized e range tires and the 35" d ranged tires....but the ride was still terrible
I am running D range 35" Mickey T's. The old Classic Baja MTX's...still rugged, quiet and smooth at higher speeds.

I checked out Sky's site and I think I will go with their 3" lift kit....it is all too enticing to get 3 more inches of lift AND get a softer ride! I will need to do a rear lift to even it out. I might use Ivans method of flipping the stock rear.
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2006 | 01:36 AM
  #11  
dwo's Avatar
dwo
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 115
Likes: 4
From: S.E. Washington
Beware... I have the Sky 3" shackle reversal and SkyJacker 6" springs up front and the shackle angle is horrible. I'm actually at a loss on what to do besides change springs or move the shackle mounts.

 
Reply
Old May 21, 2006 | 11:40 AM
  #12  
KubotaOrange76's Avatar
KubotaOrange76
Its Comin Right for us!
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,120
Likes: 2,613
From: GA
can you not move the spring hangers back? if you cant just move the shackle mount....lift springs are usually shorter and give you a crappy shackle angle

i bet that truck rides like absolute hell
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2006 | 11:56 PM
  #13  
Saleen428's Avatar
Saleen428
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by dwo
Beware... I have the Sky 3" shackle reversal and SkyJacker 6" springs up front and the shackle angle is horrible. I'm actually at a loss on what to do besides change springs or move the shackle mounts.

Did you contact Sky about this? I would think that the lift springs are the same distance as stock springs from eye to eye. Isnt that what makes them bolt-on's? What am I missing here?
 
Reply
Old May 22, 2006 | 12:55 AM
  #14  
dwo's Avatar
dwo
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 115
Likes: 4
From: S.E. Washington
I know it's not Sky Manufacturing's fault. Infact their longer shackle makes up for it a little bit. And the ride is not "absolute hell" - that was how it rode stock. The "best" store-bought springs, SkyJackers, are about 3" short and because of the shackle angle, they haven't sagged one bit, and hence, hard to compress. I'll just figure out a way to move the shackle mount forward, or maybe take out a leaf? I wouldn't hesitate to buy Sky's shackle-reversal kit again. Maybe I should have said, "Beware SkyJacker!"
 
Reply
Old May 22, 2006 | 08:51 AM
  #15  
KubotaOrange76's Avatar
KubotaOrange76
Its Comin Right for us!
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,120
Likes: 2,613
From: GA
Originally Posted by Saleen428
Did you contact Sky about this? I would think that the lift springs are the same distance as stock springs from eye to eye. Isnt that what makes them bolt-on's? What am I missing here?
usually the major lift companies front leaves give you a crappy shackle angle
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:53 AM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE