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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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Unhappy Passenger side dash falling on '94, HELP !

Help..please draw me a picture! I'm one of those that needs a picture to totally understand something for the first time and I want to go into this job understanding all I can.

My '94 F150 has the passenger side dash problem. It's pretty bad now. The dash on the passenger side is down almost an inch.

I have read the fixes on the board here and I know about the parts kit from Ford and I have also read about others who have used their own method using epoxy or making their own bracket.

What I need help understanding is where the broken mount, ear, thingy is located? I've read about the metal support post on the passenger kick panel and for some reason thought the glove box has to be removed. And I think by reading some posts that the fix is way up under the dash close to the front windshield on the passenger side.

Help me understand where to get to the broken part. Do I remove the passenger side kick panel and will I see the broken mount up there or is it on the firewall up under the dash on the passenger side? I know I can fix this but I want to understand the location better before I start.

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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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you can see it better by removing kick panel. just shake dash and you will see what broke.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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Here is a photo.

 
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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Dash heading south

I just read recently that the're is a repair kit for this (15-20 $) if my memory is correct. I think it is a Ford item. If not do a search for it, i'm sure you'll find it.
I would think a creative thinking mind could solve it for less $ though. Try looking at a 92", mine is and I have 120-k on it and doesn't sag. Yet!!
Good Luck! Hobo.labo
 
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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yea, take off the pass kick pannel first and look at the lower corner of the dash. If ya cant see the mount, try moving the dash up and down. Heres my redneck way to fix it-- get a small piece of right angle aluminum or such and drill a hole in it. Position the dash at the height you want it at(a friend would come in handy here, trust me!) and place the bracket under the piece of the stock bracket still on the dash. Then get a self tapping sheet metal screw and screw it in the steel cab. Viola, fixed!! Took me about 15min, cause I had all the stuff laying around.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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yea, take off the pass kick pannel first and look at the lower corner of the dash. If ya cant see the mount, try moving the dash up and down. Heres my redneck way to fix it-- get a small piece of right angle aluminum or such and drill a hole in it. Position the dash at the height you want it at(a friend would come in handy here, trust me!) and place the bracket under the piece of the stock bracket still on the dash. Then get a self tapping sheet metal screw and screw it in the steel cab. Viola, fixed!! Took me about 15min, cause I had all the stuff laying around.
Great minds think alike! I had the same idea! Only I bent up a floor joist hanger into a right angle and the drywall/sheet metal screws did the rest of the work. How much money did I spend?..... roughly nothing! Just took me 15 minutes to figure out how I was going to fix it!

When my dash broke, I was actually on the passenger side. Dad was driving, and the next thing I know, we hit a pot hole that broke the dash and dumped the contents in my glove box all over the floor. I wasn't too happy!
 

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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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MAN!!! Thanks you all !!! Handyman43358, Marc150, hobo.labo, Subford, and Quicklook2 !!! You all rock!! If that ain't drawing me a picture, I don't know what is!! and Subford you take the cake cause you posted an actual picture!! If I can't fix it now, I shouldn't be driving!!

But really, this information will make what I thought would be a day long job, be only a 1 hour job at the most!!

I really love my '94 six banger and little by little it's getting better. From this board I learned how to fix the driver side door lever by fab'in a new metal plate support for the lever mount, replaced the cable to the latch, replaced the fuel filter that was messed up by someone that didn't know how to get it off, auto trans filter change, and I've put on a fumoto oil drain plug thing and I love it. Oh I also changed the big ole bushings, I think they are called the radial arm bushings, the ones that bond with the metal!

I love this bar..I mean bulletin board

Thanks all !!
 
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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I just told a story and didn't help much... but you're welcome! Glad I could... entertain???.. you with my story!
 
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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when i did mine i epoxyed it, than i put screen with more epoxy over the whole piece.

let the whole thing dry for 24 hours.

over a year now and still perfect.

did not want to buy the ford kit, it was to easy to do it myself.

and i think subford has the most photos and diagrams of parts than anyone i know. thanks. subford!
 

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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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quicklook- Your method is for people who have patience! (Payback for knocking my pre school exhaust pictures!) Your way is probably much more durable and will last longer than mine though! Having little to no patience can be bad sometimes.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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handyman, sometimes i have patience, not all the time. i have like 5 vehicles to drive if one is out of commision.

how is the trans. fix going? when is new one being hooked up?

quicklook
 
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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Waiting on a loan so I can buy a new unit! I do have the old one out. Had to pull the trans and leave the TC bolted to the flywheel. Spun the input bearing and the pump locked up which wouldn't allow me to turn the engine over at all. Once I got the trans out from around the TC everything went fine.

Currently I'm looking into redoing my exhaust and everything else we had talked about previously.

Sorry I'll stop hijacking that thread!

PS. Wanna send one of those vehicles my way so I can replace the engine in my ol ranger!?
 
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 04:57 AM
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Handyman, when I read a story I paint mental pictures...but most of the time my mental picture isn't anywhere near the actual reality...but it's entertaining to be sure :-) Thanks again!! I'll post an update when the job is finished...I know the job will require a cup of coffee, maybe a dounut, or two...
 
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Old May 1, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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My '93 did the same thing. I fixed it with a 2 inch aluminum angle bracket available from any hardware store. I placed it under the dash up against the metal behind the kick plate and drilled through the plastic under the dash. I then attached the bracket to the dash with small nuts and bolts. Then I put a small floor jack in the floor board and jacked the dash up to the desired height. Using some self tapping metal screws I screwed the other side of the bracket to the metal behind the kick plate. It has been over a year and the dash has been solid as a rock ever since.
 
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Old May 1, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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This is a pretty common problem with these trucks. It is easily fixable and can be done so many different ways. I guess Ford looked over that tiny little plastic bracket holdin up that side of the dash! Oh well though... the rest of these trucks are solid as a rock.
 
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