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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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Well it looks like you have not taken the bottom cover plate off to get at the torque convertor bolts yet and please don't tell me the chain wraped around the oil pan is the way you are trying to pull it? If so you need to reconsider that set up as it is not safe at all.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Well it looks like you have not taken the bottom cover plate off to get at the torque convertor bolts yet and please don't tell me the chain wraped around the oil pan is the way you are trying to pull it? If so you need to reconsider that set up as it is not safe at all.
The pan has more than 2 bolts as stated above so I wasn't sure. The chain wraps around the entire engine. What do you recommend to chain it to? My picker doesn't have the balance bar. Thanks for the help. This site is awesome! Also where is the plug to drain the tranny?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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Your loosen and rempve the pan bolts to drain the pan.

You turn the torque convertor to remove the plug to drain it ....once you see it.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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The chain wraps around the entire engine. What do you recommend to chain it to? My picker doesn't have the balance bar. Thanks for the help. This site is awesome! Also where is the plug to drain the tranny?
you havent pulled a motor before have you?? unwrap that chain, that is very dangerous and unpractical....i use large bolts in the holes on the front and rear of the heads....make sure you have bolts that thread into the hole properly, and thread in at least 1 inch or more.... use a 3 foot piece of chain and bolt each end to the engine front to back diagonally, then hook the cherry picker to the center of the chain....as for the torque convertor, it should be unbolted but if the motor wont turn its pointless to try that..you need to remove the dust cover off the lower part of the transmission bellhousing, it will stop the flywheel and TC from coming out therefore keeping the engine and tranny together....with that coerplate off the torque convertor and flywheel will pull out as one. if its still stuck after that, put 4 bellhousing bolts back in, undo the transmition mount, linkage and lines and pull them both out at once..thats how i always pull motors on rear wheel drives, its alot easier to R&R trannies out on the ground than in a truck..in my opinion, you really need to have someone with experience help you (hands on) the first time you pull an engine, there is alot more to it than pulling it out and dropping one in......i know thats not alway possible, and we are here to help, but you can get seriously hurt doing this task...its a good thing that didnt come apart cause the way you have it chained up is dangerous, when i was 16 i almost got crushed under a car by a falling engine and tranny, because it wasnt secured properly...be safe...
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:23 AM
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you havent pulled a motor before have you?? unwrap that chain, that is very dangerous and unpractical....i use large bolts in the holes on the front and rear of the heads....make sure you have bolts that thread into the hole properly, and thread in at least 1 inch or more.... use a 3 foot piece of chain and bolt each end to the engine front to back diagonally, then hook the cherry picker to the center of the chain....as for the torque convertor, it should be unbolted but if the motor wont turn its pointless to try that..you need to remove the dust cover off the lower part of the transmission bellhousing, it will stop the flywheel and TC from coming out therefore keeping the engine and tranny together....with that coerplate off the torque convertor and flywheel will pull out as one. if its still stuck after that, put 4 bellhousing bolts back in, undo the transmition mount, linkage and lines and pull them both out at once..thats how i always pull motors on rear wheel drives, its alot easier to R&R trannies out on the ground than in a truck..in my opinion, you really need to have someone with experience help you (hands on) the first time you pull an engine, there is alot more to it than pulling it out and dropping one in......i know thats not alway possible, and we are here to help, but you can get seriously hurt doing this task...its a good thing that didnt come apart cause the way you have it chained up is dangerous, when i was 16 i almost got crushed under a car by a falling engine and tranny, because it wasnt secured properly...be safe...
Thanks for the tip. I'll try that. As for the chain, it's not connected like that. I have it attached to the intake.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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I just pulled my 302 out of my 77 F150 on Thursday and I have pulled many engines in the past and I always have someone to help me while I am pulling the motor. I had everything unbolted and just asked a friend of mine to stop over after work and we had it out in less than an hour. To drain your tranny you need to remove all the tranny pan bolts and in my case I also needed to remove the tranny dip stick tube from the tranny pan prior to removing the engine. The cover will most likely have to be pryed loose with a screw driver. I put the pan back on w/ a couple of bolts before I jacked the tranny up during the engine removal process. My engines intake manifold had large bolt holes I believe were intended for pulling the engine since they were not used for anything else. They were positioned diagonally on the intake back right (PS) and front left (DS) and I bolted my chain to these mounting holes w/ two large bolts and washers. There should be 6 bellhousing to engine bolts to be removed. I removed the tranny dust cover on the bottom front of tranny (two-bolts) and the starter. Once the cover is off you will be looking at the flex plate (flywheels are on manual tranny vehicles) and there are 4 nuts holding the torque converter to the flex plate and you will only be able to see one at a time through this opening. To remove these nuts you will need to hit the wrench with a hammer to loosen the nut, since the engine will turn if you simply pull the wrench. Put a wrench on the balancer bolt on the front of engine (inside the crank pulley) and turn the engine 90 degrees to expose the next nut to be removed and so on. Double check that all wires, fuel lines, and linkages have been removed and you need to support the transmission with a floor jack w/ a board to protect the tranny pan. I also placed two 1" thick boards through the cross member to support the tranny once the engine is out and the floor jack is removed. I had my friend jack up the engine slightly and pull back on the engine hoist and I worked under the truck with a large screw driver to pry the engine and bellhousing apart. Once free from the transmission we just continued to lift the engine up and over the engine compartment. Good luck.

Jim
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Loosen the torque converter bolts from flywheel, failure to do so could result in front pump on transmission damage.

Use a chain like SwOkcOffRoader mentioned to hoist engine out, use flat washer on the bolts, this will not let the chain come out of bolts.

Remove the radiator as it can get damaged when removing engine.

Will need to raise the front of transmission up at the same time as you hoist the engine out.
 
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