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Not bad mouthing ford, just the ranger, I love and have enjoyed driving all the fords I have owned, escort (2 of them), tarus,explorer(3 of them), expedition, if i remember correctly the whole point of these threads is so that we can help each other and to express our opinions ( be they extremely right or extremely wrong) I also know that we live in america and as of yet nobody has put a stop to having your own opinion nor have they put a stop to free speech. Sorry you feel taht I can't express my opinion or views.
The 80's and 90's up to 94' were built ford tough. Anything after that is junk.
I Have a 99' 4x4 3.0l with 173,000 +- a few 100 miles and since the day I bought I have had nothing but problems in fact 20 or more pages of service history. When I take it to the dealership ( to have them perform some type of work that is to diificult for me to perform) They always say "you seem to have all of the typical Ranger problems that rangers have, They have even told me (because I am in there so much and have struck up a friendship with the service manager) they hate to see a ranger pull into the lot for service because they know the owner is going to complain about how big a hunk of junk their ranger is. All I have ever driven is ford vehicles and have never ever had this much problem or service on any other ford vehicle I have owned. My opinion, fix the problems or build a new truck and fix the problems.
or stop building small trucks if you don't know what you are doing
I agree with you on that one. I had a 1995 Ranger Splash Supercab and it was a great truck! I put over 135,000 miles on it and I kid you not, it drove like new! Very few problems except the phantom wipers and dome light that wouldnt go out when the passenger door opened.
Then when I was done paying for it I very stupidly, and greedly, traded it in for a used 1999 XLT 4X4 Sport Supercab, that I had plenty o' problems with in my 3 years of owning it. Front and rear brakes (twice for the rear, thanks to crappy job at one local Detroit Ford dealer ) Upper and lower ball joints and arms at 55,000 miles, 6 tires at $150 a piece, broken armrest, tailgate door rust, paint bubbling up underneith the hood resulting in the hood having to be totally replaced, front and rear shocks and struts, and thats just what I knew was wrong. I traded it in for a (at the time) brand new 2004 Fx4 with no major problems yet.
I guess the point is, even when Ford made cheap Rangers during the 90's with the phantom wipers, faulty dome light, etc., it still didnt stop people from buying another. Heck, Ive had three!
Sure you can go mudding in a 4 cylinder, the *****'s jeeps, from the cj's to the p/u's, and the station wagons used the I-4, and thier some of the most sought after 4x4's there are. The secrect is gears, they had like 513 gears, plenty of offroad power, they could climb a tree, if they could reach the first branch ha ha. With only 60 hp, thier road speed was much to be desired. My piont being, with todays I-4's having a 150, to 170 hp, with a set of 456's, and 31", to maybe 33" tires, they should be quite capable offroad. Less power, less parts that you'll be breaking, as americans, we've been spoiled with hp to a degree. Take an old scout, or *****'s, they could take you just about any place you would want to go, maybe a return to a more simpler time, wouldn't be so bad, A TIME WHEN DRIVER SKILL, AND INPUT made the differience, instead of powering our way out of every bad situation, just my thoughts.
Yeah, this is America, you have the right to be wrong.
Keep in mind that there are lemons of every brand. Just because you had a bad Ranger experience doesn't mean they're all bad. I suspect the shop manager told you what you wanted to hear so you'd come back. Around here, service managers are hired by dealers for their lack of experience. They want people with sales experience.
Beleive me, I've had Fords with problems. A '92 Exploder for example, ABS self-destructed with each panic stop, ate front brakes, weak auto transmission had to be flushed every 20K because fluid turned brown, head cracked, etc. Spent over $6K in four years. Yet you [ckstrawser] think Exploders are great. Go figure.
Going back a ways, ever try to get a Y-block with dual vacuum distributor and no mechanical advance to run right? If it was so good, why did Ford dump it the next year for a conventional vacuum/mechanical distributor?
Going back even further, ever driven a car with mechanical brakes? Ford kept them just because ol' Henry was a despot and he ran the show.
So, it still seems to me that bad mouthing Rangers in a Ranger club takes a lot of *****. But on the Internet people say things they wouldn't in person. Doesn't make 'em true, just easier.
Ya know, I had a similar conversation with my wife on the way to the folks for Easter dinner yesterday. The whole"best selling compact pick-up" thing came up. Well its awfully easy to win that one when its you and a blind,toothless old fart in the weight class. The Ranger is the last "true" compact pick-up, therefore it wins by default. Everyone else has theirs on the same steroid regimen as Barry Bonds. Gotta love that fuzzy advertising.
Decent trucks, despite what some may say. I've had 4. 1st one,'83 2x4 reg cab, scrambled the 2.3. My fault. Didn't kill it tho... Next '94 4x4 reg cab. Good truck, just too small inside. #3 was a '99 4x4, 4.0, ext cab. really liked thet truck. It was leased and the stealership tried taking me for $2 on the buy-out, so I left it. EDIT I just picked up an '06 4x2 ext. cab. Though I'm not nearly as in love with it as my 150(long story) it's good. Just dated. I am impressed with the new 4-banger. I did get my EDIT handed to me in my '02 150(4.2/auto) by an I-5 Colorado. I still think they are frickin' ugly and a bad marketing ploy. Cummon' Keatus, you doesn't wants to gits one of those 5 cilinder thingies if'n you can gits a 6 in a Ferd, an an 8 in a Doge!
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ive had 2, my first one was better than the 2nd. bought my 1st ( a '88 2wd s/c ) at 100,000 miles and drove it another 103,000 miles, did a rebuild on the 2.3 at 140,000 but other than that, no trobles. my '93 with a 4.0 4x4 also a s/c had 60,000 when i got it, has 92,000 now. ive put in ball joints, front axle u-joints, 1 transmission due to a blown 2nd syncro and the current trans is having downshifting issues with 5th and 2nd. over all i still like it and id have another. dad had simialr results with a full-size bronco, the '89 was great, 302 4 spd, got a '96 with a 351 E4OD for the bigger camper and it just wasnt as good, more power sure, but more problems and lots more thirsty at the pump.
did a rebuild on the 2.3 at 140,000 but other than that, no trobles.
You had the 2.3 rebuilt at 140? What consisted of the rebuild? If you did a complete rebuild, then someone musta ran that beast out of oil once or twice!
I've never heard of one being rebuilt that early, but I guess it's possible!
Almost 317,000 on my 91, no major problems. Thought I blew er up a few months ago because I had a defective oil filter that wouldn't let oil pass through, which resulted in little lubrication up high, which turned into loud valve tapping and knocking. Pulled er home, threw a new filter on it, and I've put 3 or 4000 miles on it since. I'm also embarassed to say she went 12,000 miles without an oil change a few times too many. Thanks Dad! (That was when he drove it.)'
So, it still seems to me that bad mouthing Rangers in a Ranger club takes a lot of *****. But on the Internet people say things they wouldn't in person. Doesn't make 'em true, just easier
Doesn't matter to me wether you are a 100 pond weakling or a 400 pound muscle bound biker with a mean nasty attitude I will tell any one or you to your face what I just said here. An opinion is an opinion and everyone is entitled to it. And your above comment was unnecessry as was your entire post. Because of yor lousy attitude I will get my info and this will be my last post on this website. Some people just don't realize this is America the land of the free and the place where an opinion is also free. Thanks to those that have helped in the past and have good attitudes
ckstrawser, what upset you buddy! I've posted on this thread, tho it's been awhile, but I don't see anything that bad. I don't see where anybody is putting down rangers, maybe I missed something. I read the post above your's, I'm still not seeing it. Tell us exactly whats wrong, maybe we can fix it. PM me if you want, and we can talk about it.
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