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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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In a 92 351 what is the stock compression?....8.5:1? and what size is the combustion chamber in the stock heads? Im just doing some calculations for my motor, trying to choose pistons, heads and such.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Nobody knows about the 351w in this forum....?
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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I don't know a lot about the specifics, but a lot of the guys here do. This forum doesn't get a lot of traffic, so give it some more time.

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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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Stock heads are most likely E7TE's which have a 60cc chamber volume. I don't have the factory specs for the compression ratio, but eventually sombody else will be along who does.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Ford lists the E7's at 60.6 to 63.6 ccs. If I aint mistaken the comp ratio is 9 to 1 on the E7TE headed motors.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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Egoman, I think you're right about it being 8.5:1. I posted this same question about a year ago in the E series van forum and one member mentioned 65 or 67cc on the heads but I can't be sure. He did mention that the compression wasn't that great because of the dish pistons.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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i just rebuilt a 351 w with e7tes and it has 9to1 comp its a 1986 351w and it did not have e7te heads on it i got them from another engine
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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Do you know what pistons and the P/N you used? I wanna try to get 9.5:1 if its possible but most pistons are giving me like 10'ish or like 8.8:1....
 
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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I looked in Silvolite's site and they offered three basic designs for 351's, one was the flat top with about a 10.5 to 1 ratio, then the Lightning replacements that were 8.8 to 1 and then the std late 351's were around 8 to 1. The flat tops will get you close to a 9.5 to 1 ratio, but with big chambered heads, which kind of defeats your purpose, you get the ratio you want but lose some detonation resistence with the larger chambers. Probably the best compromise would be the Lightning pistons with smaller chambered heads ( 58cc instead of 64's)
 
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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Well I was lookin at the 60cc edelbrocks...I was thinking about a set of TRW forged pistons H336P 30
they say there 9.4:1 or about that..I figure with a .038 headgasket. But If I do my calculations with those numbers my figure comes out alot lower.
 

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Your compression depends on the type of piston being used, the piston to deck height, the thickness of head gasket, the combustion chamber volume, the bore and the stroke.

You can find compression calculators online...
 
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Originally Posted by EgoMan
Well I was lookin at the 60cc edelbrocks...I was thinking about a set of TRW forged pistons H336P 30
they say there 9.4:1 or about that..I figure with a .038 headgasket. But If I do my calculations with those numbers my figure comes out alot lower.
If you're thinking on using FelPro's printo seal type .038 gasket, I'd advise against it. They don't hold up well to overheating episodes with aluminum heads. I tried em for the same reason, to increase the comp ratio but the first time the engine ran hot (240-250) the gasket blew.
 
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Originally Posted by EgoMan
Well I was lookin at the 60cc edelbrocks...I was thinking about a set of TRW forged pistons H336P 30
they say there 9.4:1 or about that..I figure with a .038 headgasket. But If I do my calculations with those numbers my figure comes out alot lower.
I came out with a 10.25 to 1 ratio with those pistons. .020 deck clearance=4.5 ccs, 5cc piston head volume ( valve reliefs and the area around the piston to the 1st ring) 9.5 ccs for the gasket and 60 ccs for the heads. Plus the piston swept volume=731.6 ( 30 over 351)
 
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Your compression depends on the type of piston being used, the piston to deck height, the thickness of head gasket, the combustion chamber volume, the bore and the stroke.

You can find compression calculators online...
Yea i know, I have already done the math but I was calculating a .025 deck, and the research on the pistons said that they were 16.5cc's....

My deck was 1.75throw+5.956Rod+1.772Piston-9.503 = 9.478(.025) I think anyways... 60cc heads...i was using .038 inch gaskets dont remember the make, but gasket bore was 4.1". Thats how I came up with 9.1:1.

Now I do have a set of pistons that would bump me up into the mid to low 10 range but I dont know how this speed density will handle that? I had another post but nobody seems to know.
 

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Old May 4, 2006 | 01:05 AM
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it's kind of weird...on the 335 series forum there are numerous engine builders and enthusiasts- specs come very easy with several very specific build plans...you trip over them when searching...thats with engines that hasn't a following as compared to windsors. I think it's similar with the fe's

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