I am going to post this a couple places, so Ken I hope you will forgive me. But really want some feedback ASAP.

Scene. Several of grown men standing in a shop around a 1967 F-100 2wd, with built up 390 (E-Brock Heads) scratching their heads. In part #1 I found out that my Dyno"junk" headers won't seal because header ports are lots smaller than 2" High head ports. So I order Sandersons -#FF427, only after re-assurance from them that this application will fit fine in my '67 Truck, and thinking I'll also solve starter clearance problems.

Sandersons arrived, took them out of box, laid on the copper gasket that is a perfect match to the heads, and the tops of headers are like 1/2" to 5/8" lower than gasket. Plus they sent me Two drivers side headers! I am sending them back. The passenger side went on, but the collector was like 1/4" from oil pan, so I would've traded One heat sink for another (mechanic thinks it would have fried oil pan gasket). And I would have had to cut and grind holes to get ports a little closer to match (meaning restricted top & bottom -instead of just top)

So, now I'm trying to decide on another brand. Hedman Elites (89810)seem OK, however that have an ominous footnote #138, "not for Camper Special or vehicles with front anti-sway bar" - Whats up with that?

I don't have Camper Special, but I do have a front sway bar (though not stock, it's a H/D upgrade). But I can't think of any reason for the headers to conflict with sway bars.

I'm also going to go back into my folder an look at Stans, and Headers by ED. I am so ready for this "Headerache" to be over. Trevor the CACWBY in WI.

 

I just ordered the hedman headers myself and wondered about the campers special foot note. I have no sway bar, so I wasn't worried.

I think you have the usual header headaches, besides the fact that people sent you two of the same side. Headers always need tweaking and put a hammer to them. Seriously. Pulling starters, putting mini starters, relocating oil filters, relocating brake proportioning valves, you name it, headers will get you there.

I HATE headers. After having all my classic cars back to exhaust manifolds I only ordered mine since I figured it is a truck, there must be more room than in a car!

Cheers, George

 

You will need to order a set of FPA headers and tell them that you have edelbrock headers so they can give you a header flange that matches the ports on the edelbrock heads. Forget about Hooker, the ports will not line up.

Reggie

 

Find a good set of exhaust manifolds. Have them ported. I HATE HEADERS AND CAN'T WAIT until my DYNOJUNK's are gone. $$$ is tight from Christmas, but SOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOO exhaust manifold is so restrictive on a normally aspirated engine that it takes away that much horsepower. Headers are made for drag racing and other extreme types of driving, they are not practical for everyday use engines.

Ken

 

Keep at it Trevor! I spent over a month with my header headaches but it was well worth it and I have a set of headers on a engine (351W) that never was factory installed in a 67-72 truck. I had to go with a mini-starter and I relocated 3 of the upper tubes to clear frame rail and steering gear but now the Hooker Super combs with jet-hot coating installed are the real deal.

 

Here's the website for FPA:

http://www.fordpowertrain.com/Headers.htm

Reggie

 

Trev, that note about the Camper Special front sway bar, they are talking about the stock one that runs behind the I-beams. The aftermarket sway bars I've seen run in front of the I-beams and present no interference problems.

Barry

 

>Trev, that note about the Camper Special front sway bar,
>they are talking about the stock one that runs behind the
>I-beams. The aftermarket sway bars I've seen run in front of
>the I-beams and present no interference problems.
>
>Barry


Thats kinda what I was figuring. But this months issue of American Rodder (I subscribed before it was sold, however I am getting used to new version) as an article on sealing headers, and the leaky ones they use are Hedmans. So I took them off list.

So I did talk to the nice man (Stan) at FPA (Ford Powertrain Applications) who was very reassuring - they only have Ford stuff, and he told me things I wanted to hear, and $600.00 later I think I'm a happy camper - we'll see, he can't ship until a week from Thursday. I'll post results for sure. Trevor the CACWBY in WI. (The Console is in!!!)

 

 

I ran into some people running headers and they say
in order to get those things on and sealed properly
bolts must be tightened a couple times or so in the
first bitty of use, one guy hadn't touched his dyno junk
for a year and a half.

Fe power

 

> I ran into some people running headers and they say
>in order to get those things on and sealed properly
>bolts must be tightened a couple times or so in the
>first bitty of use, one guy hadn't touched his dyno junk
>for a year and a half.
>
>Fe power


I only wish I could be so lucky, no - my problems ( and many others as well) are becuase the header ports are smaller than actual exhaust port in the heads. Quite frankly I think that most just bolt them on and if they fit and don't leak they never check if they are actually getting good flow at that junction or restriction. It's only when they leak (and the bolts have been broke in and tightened properly) that they discover how poorly made the @#$%! things are. If the exhaust port is blasting hot air against the flange sooner or later it blasts out, or past the gasket. This months American Rooder has an article on sealing some Hedmans, thats shows what I mean, but even after they seal, they aren't getting the flow they paid for because the blasted header ports must still be smaller than exhaust ports, which is just frustrating. But I'm hoping and Praying that the FPA ones are the real deal, at least he had the right measurements for my 390, 2" high and 1.5" wide. Trevor the CACWBY in WI