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Its not that - When the seperate forums for engines were set up, they were originally set up as forums to discuss things about the engine (and to further emphasize this, they were placed in a specific diesel area), we aren't trying to solve a "base-line problem"...
I am not immune to the issue either, when I was a moderator in the 6.0l forum I allowed a lot of things that weren't really engine associated - because the 6.0l owners were feeling victimised in the Super Duty forum for owning a "sick-litre" - so to help answer thier questions I kept them in the 6.0l forum.
Now, as they feel (and as the engine becomes) more accepted, the majority of them post in the SD forum - however I am sure the occasional post slips by
This is just a hypothetical example: I am the owner of a 2003 5.4l powered superduty who is experiencing brake shudder (not all that uncommon), and I am a new user. I have to search the 5.4l forum, the superduty forum, the 6.8l V10 forum, the 6.0l PSD forum and the 7.3l PSD forum to get all the information on brakes.
It isn't about bandwidth, or cross posting, we are trying to make it easier for said user thats all.
Maybe there should be more emphasis put on using the search function. If used properly the search function is an excellent tool for example: (hypothetical) If I type in "hissing noise" it may come up with 10 pages of threads with the word hissing noise. If I look to the far right of the page it also tells me what forum the thread title is used in. Therefore if I own a 1999-2003 7.3 diesel I only search the hissing noise threads that are shown under that category.... why would anyone be interested in looking under hissing noise for a Windstar or Explorer if they own a 7.3 and it is already "broken down" into categories for them. It seems that the current search function is simple enough, but if you don't use it that is where the problems arise with duplicate posts and posts with the same info under 4 or 5 different thread titles. WHO GETS TO PLAY GOD AND DEEM WHAT THREADS ARE RELATIVE TO A SUBJECT AND WHICH ONES ARE NOT? FOR THAT MATTER IF A THREAD ISN'T RELATIVE AND I ANSWER A QUESTION FROM THAT THREAD AM I TOO GUILTY FOR PERPETUATING THE PROBLEM BY POSTING AN ANSWER? I think having these issues in a forum such as FTE is just the nature of the beast.
Last edited by turbostroke; Mar 23, 2006 at 05:16 PM.
What I do not think is ok are thread about tires, wheels, door locks, dome lights, axle and differential, transfer case, running lights, brakes, hubs, body parts, or anything else that every Superduty has in common regardless of engine....FTE is full of forums dedicated to all things truck. We all have participated in those threads, but the time for that has passed. Obviously, my job is to guide the newbies to the right places, but you experienced users know better.
What I like about our particular 7.3 forum is it's always seemed that we can discuss the 7.3 and other parts of the truck, without seeming to get too carried away on other things. What I mean is, it seems that we have a bit more free reign in our forum here, and handle it much better than other forums.
I wouldn't mind if topics Scott mentioned in my quote above were placed in the Superduty or other forums. If they go into the Superduty forum, they'll get attention. The problem with other subforums such as appearance/dressup and tranny forums is they don't seem to get as much attention, for whatever reasons.
I like the fact that regulars to this section of the forum can feel comfortable getting a bit outside the technical engine questions from time-to-time, and at the same time usually don't get carried away.
Anyway, I'm open to the changes Scott suggested, as they're pretty reasonable. I'd just like to see things stay easy-going around here, like they are now. Moving a few very off-topic posts won't destroy that atmosphere, though, so I don't think it's too much to ask for those topics to be placed elsewhere by the poster or a mod.
While we're discussing these things, I'd like to suggest that we make a brief FAQ for the 7.3 specifically. Some questions come up ridiculously often, and are very commonly answered with the same answer by many people, since it seems they've become common knowledge by now. For example, some brief words on topics like CPS, homemade tymar (kwik filter), etc. would help to clear up some of the frequently asked questions (I guess that's what an FAQ is intended for, anyway ).
This is also an issue in the Superduty forum, with questions related to what size tires can be fit on a stock truck, disabling dingers, etc... actually these are already addressed in the FAQ there, but many folks don't check there first. I guess that's another issue altogether - getting folks to try checking the FAQ or try searching, first.
im willing to do the research and writing of the Kwik writeup, moderators PM me if you want me to do something along the line of what 1997F-350 did on the glow plug thread.
Working, going to school, member of a family, got a girlfriend, moddin' his truck, likely working on the rest of his family's "fleet", hanging out here, etc.
i make time for this, even if i dont have it. i get up 5-10 minutes early, and i browse before school. i even showed my shop teacher this site. my girlfriend hates this site, im always on here or modding my truck.
"get over it or get out, its my life, i ain't changin' "
While we're discussing these things, I'd like to suggest that we make a brief FAQ for the 7.3 specifically.
That has been on my personal "to do" list since the day I got this gig. I am going to build it.....but I will need the assistance of this board to do it. Keep an eye out in the next couple of days for a post on it....or start your own, and I'll make some suggestions for what I think we'll need to make it happen.
Just so you'll know....all of you. The overwhelming response to this thread has been noticed at the highest levels of the site. In light of that, this forum will remain exactly as it is....for the time being. The tribe has spoken.
I will keep doing as I have been, moving the ones that really feel do not belong, but you guys and gals are free to keep on keeping on. And those of you that reguarly use the "report this post" button please continue to do so. It really does make the admins. job easier when the members lend a hand in policing themselves.
Oh...and to the popular suggestion that the Superduty forums be broken up into Superduty/engine sub-forums...be careful what you wish for, you might just get it
Nice job guys. Thanks for keeping it a civilized discussion...it has paid off for you.
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That whole last post of yours is great news, Scott!
Count me in on any help with the FAQ that may be needed. I've got a few articles saved from elsewhere that have good material, and some of my own stuff I could contribute.
That has been on my personal "to do" list since the day I got this gig. I am going to build it.....but I will need the assistance of this board to do it. Keep an eye out in the next couple of days for a post on it....or start your own, and I'll make some suggestions for what I think we'll need to make it happen.
Just so you'll know....all of you. The overwhelming response to this thread has been noticed at the highest levels of the site. In light of that, this forum will remain exactly as it is....for the time being. The tribe has spoken.
I will keep doing as I have been, moving the ones that really feel do not belong, but you guys and gals are free to keep on keeping on. And those of you that reguarly use the "report this post" button please continue to do so. It really does make the admins. job easier when the members lend a hand in policing themselves.
Oh...and to the popular suggestion that the Superduty forums be broken up into Superduty/engine sub-forums...be careful what you wish for, you might just get it
Nice job guys. Thanks for keeping it a civilized discussion...it has paid off for you.
Thanks for all you do and giving us the chance to voice our opinion. I just became a supporter and it does feel good.
Is it possible to add another column on the 7.3 forum page, between the "thread/thread starter" and "rating" that could categorize what the subject is?
For example, it might be the (thread/thread starter)--"I need help" (GeoffNJ) --Category="transmission"--or--"exhaust"--or--"turbo"--or--"mod",etc.
If that was on the same line, in the middle, we'd all know what it was about before opening the thread. It could be an option when we post. A checkable box or such. That way if it said, "wheels/tires" it could be moved. (Or the option for such off-topic things wouldn't even be there.)
If there was a questionable thread (i.e., front springs and wheels for a diesel) there would be a box for "other" and a write-in space. It could then be judged by the moderators and, if necessary, moved.
I see the amount of work that would be needed to go through all these posts and decide what should go where. Looking at the Home page for the site, this forum has an incredible amount of posts for the topic we cover. I just thought that screening each new post ahead of time might cut out some of the work for the moderators.
Probably not. But you are right, it would make it easier. Just too space intensive I imagine.
Describing the contents of the thread in the title is called thread tilting....It's one of the things I request of users in my forum rules/general info sticky thread.
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And those of you that reguarly use the "report this post" button please continue to do so. It really does make the admins. job easier when the members lend a hand in policing themselves.
what dose the report this post do? i would like to help but dont know what it is for
If a post is a personal attack at another user, or is grossly off-topic, or otherwise needs moderator attention, click that button next to the offending post, and it emails or PMs or otherwise alerts the mods to the post.
Otherwise, it won't get attention unless they run across it themselves. Not just useful for posts that are insulting or violate forum rules in that manner, but also if a newbie posted something in the complete wrong section, a mod can then see it and move it accordingly.
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