Does anybody know of a california approved tuner for the 7.3l's??

I hate this damn state...

 

Check with Banks. I know the ottomind stuff had E.O. numbers, don't know about the Big Hoss.

As far as I know, none of the hand held tuners are C.A.R.B exempt.

 

I am using the Hypertech and they stat it is CARB approved. LPR

 

Just currious why it matters? We don't have smog checks on the diesels in CA.

 

I am so far from an automotive expert it is almost laughable but here is the section in the vehicle code that generally governs those type of devices.

California Vehicle Code
27156. (a) No person shall operate or leave standing upon any highway any motor vehicle which is a gross polluter, as defined in Section 39032.5 of the Health and Safety Code.

(b) No person shall operate or leave standing upon any highway any motor vehicle which is required to be equipped with a motor vehicle pollution control device under Part 5 (commencing with Section 43000) of Division 26 of the Health and Safety Code or any other certified motor vehicle pollution control device required by any other state law or any rule or regulation adopted pursuant to that law, or required to be equipped with a motor vehicle pollution control device pursuant to the National Emission Standards Act (42 U.S.C. Secs. 1857f-1 to 1857f-7, inclusive) and the standards and regulations adopted pursuant to that federal act, unless the motor vehicle is equipped with the required motor vehicle pollution control device which is correctly installed and in operating condition. No person shall disconnect, modify, or alter any such required device.

(c) No person shall install, sell, offer for sale, or advertise any device, apparatus, or mechanism intended for use with, or as a part of, any required motor vehicle pollution control device or system which alters or modifies the original design or performance of any such motor vehicle pollution control device or system.

(d) If the court finds that a person has willfully violated this section, the court shall impose the maximum fine that may be imposed in the case, and no part of the fine may be suspended.

(e) "Willfully," as used in this section, has the same meaning as the meaning of that word prescribed in Section 7 of the Penal Code.

(f) No person shall operate a vehicle after notice by a traffic officer that the vehicle is not equipped with the required certified motor vehicle pollution control device correctly installed in operating condition, except as may be necessary to return the vehicle to the residence or place of business of the owner or driver or to a garage, until the vehicle has been properly equipped with such a device.

(g) The notice to appear issued or complaint filed for a violation of this section shall require that the person to whom the notice to appear is issued or against whom the complaint is filed produce proof of correction pursuant to Section 40150 or proof of exemption pursuant to Section 4000.1 or 4000.2

(h) This section shall not apply to an alteration, modification, or modifying device, apparatus, or mechanism found by resolution of the State Air Resources Board to do either of the following:

(1) Not to reduce the effectiveness of any required motor vehicle pollution control device.

(2) To result in emissions from any such modified or altered vehicle which are at levels which comply with existing state or federal standards for that model year of the vehicle being modified or converted.

Form a police officers standpoint though, unless there was some piece of that device prominetly displayed in your car the officer could never tell simply by listening/looking at your car. If I am being more honest I would bet that most officers would not know what they were looking at even if they did see it.

I'm not advocating you break the law but stating that no one but you would probably ever know. Ask other California folks if they have ever had a problem because their truck was "tuned".

Just my $.02

 

That is a great point.

 

Which version of the PPIII are you using?

 

Not yet but down the road there will be. They are already making Fleets do a smog check. Had ours checked starting about 3 years ago. Don't know how 1 of them passed as it was puking out smoke bad. Looks like the only test so far is with a spectremometor to messure the density of the smoke. LPR
Luckely I live in a county were we don't even have the semi annual Smog Check just when you sell. inles you sell to a family member, and as I Tell anyone who buys from me " We are all Brothers and Sisters in the Eyes of the Lord." Never had them turn anyone down at the DMV.

 

From Hypertech Site:
All 2004 and prior Ford Power Stroke and all GM Duramax applications are legal for sale or use on California pollution-controlled motor vehicles under CARB E.O. D-260-10 and D-260-11, respectively.

http://www.hypertech-inc.com/carbinfo.html

 

Yeah that's CARB frendly just the rest of my mods aren't but can be put back in a day or so if I have too. Cept maybe the cat. Dang thing ran away or maybe an owl ate him or something. LPR

 

I second otterdiver in that I just registered my truck in CA and there is no smog testing required? Were you told differently by the DMV? All you need to do is pay your registration and they send you your sticker.

 

Yeah, the day is coming when smog-checks will be required in the <font size="-2">Send Us Your</font><b>Gold</b><font size="-2">So We Can Waste it</font><b>en State</b>. When they do, i think I'll just have to have a spare unaltered PCM around so I can pop it in place. Any other mods I've made (or am planning to) such as fuel line mods, Tymar intake, ATS housing, 6Liter intercooler, 203 thermostat, and 4" downpipe (mine never had a cat), would only result in more air being pumped through, or more efficient burn. The tailpipe sniffer with a stock PCM should be better than stock.

Only possible problem would be if they whined that the stock intake is part of the 'smog controls'. If that is the case, I'd just have to switch to an AIS (and probably have to powdercoat my now-polished ATS housing so they won't notice it).

Then, after the inspection the PCM with the DP chip would go right back where it belongs.

CaFordDude is right, though (at least until inspections start). Unless your truck is doing something extraordinary - like pouring giant clouds of black smoke out from under the billowing white tire smoke - most police will not notice anything amiss, nor will they care.

Please note - in this state any alteration to a motorcycle exhaust that results in any noise level increase above stock is strictly forbidden - yet at least 90 percent of all Harleys have exhaust pipes that sound like the open pipes on WWII fighter planes. The police don't have time to fool with stupid laws; they have too many real criminals to deal with - especially when our STOOPID government (both parties) has basically opened the borders and allowed anyone in, regardless of background, history, or intent.

Ooops. That was political, wasn't it? Sorry...

 

My understanding is that we are going to be need smog checks on diesels in the next couple years but it will only be for vehicles manufactured after 2007.

 

I have a friend who ran SMOG stations in CA for 20 years. He said the reason that they never made diesels have a smog check is the equipment to do the actuall testing was so expensive, none of the SMOG stations would be able to afford it. Next time I talk with him I will ask him about the regulations referred to above for 2007 and see what he has to say.

 

That would make me happy. They are also threatening to smog check motorcycles, but are only planning to check bikes manufactured after 04 or 08 (I forget). In either case, my de-smogged 88 BMW (with its European high compression pistons in place of US lo-comp, 40mm carbs in place of 32mm, plugged air injection, and a variety of other changes) will never be inspected. Damn. That's t oo bad.