Heater Core
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Heater Core
So I need a new heater core. Probably gonna be somewhere less than 1k and more than 400, I know this is broad but this is what it looks like, labor parts everything. I also started thinking about simply blocking off the heater core and seein how much of a man I am when next January and February roll around. If I do simply block off the heater core, are there any consequences to engine cooling I should be aware of? Or is this practice safe?
Thanks.
Oh yeah 97, 4x4, 4.6, 191k miles.
Thanks.
Oh yeah 97, 4x4, 4.6, 191k miles.
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When my heater core started leaking I didnt have the time to fool with it so I just cut the heater hoses from under the hood and clamped them togather using a piece of plastic tubeing about the size of the hose. That way the coolant still runs the way its suppossed to, just not through the core. I was however dying to fix it as soon as the weather turned cold. Dont know how mechanically inclined you are or how much patience you possess but I did this job myself with a hand from my brother in law. The whole dash has to come out of the truck, it is a long drawn out process but it only cost me $64 plus $10 for a 12 pack verses the $400 to $600 you are about to pay for someone else to do it. It took us 8.5 hours to do mine, not hard, just have to pay attention.
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my heater core started leaking the begining of this winter, i was smellin loads of antifreeze through my heater vents. so i looked for the cheapest way out, i bought a bottle of liquid alliuminum, or you oculd try a bars stop leak for your radiator, it finds the leak and seals it, works great. i plan on keepin it this way untill i really need it, just watch your antifreeze level
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Bypassing is no problem to the cooling system. And you do not even need an "adapter" to connect two hoses. Just cut one hose at the heater side and route it right from the inlet of the engine side to the outlet of the engine side. Cutting the hoses is no big deal, since you will want to replace them anyway when putting a new heater core.
Around here the going rate for the heater core repair is 1k. It is a PITA. You can do it yourself and save a lot of money. That's what I did. I never recommend mechanic in a can type products to fix leaks. The stuff will sludge up your cooling system. If you want to keep the truck for a long time, bite the bullet and get the job done.
The engineers at the factory should burn in hell for putting the heater core where it is. And the bean counters should burn with them, for buying a cheap POS heater core that doesn't even last 10 years. This is why I went back to a 95 bronco. You can change the core in 30 minutes if it needs to be. So far the 10 year old stock unit is fine ...
George
Around here the going rate for the heater core repair is 1k. It is a PITA. You can do it yourself and save a lot of money. That's what I did. I never recommend mechanic in a can type products to fix leaks. The stuff will sludge up your cooling system. If you want to keep the truck for a long time, bite the bullet and get the job done.
The engineers at the factory should burn in hell for putting the heater core where it is. And the bean counters should burn with them, for buying a cheap POS heater core that doesn't even last 10 years. This is why I went back to a 95 bronco. You can change the core in 30 minutes if it needs to be. So far the 10 year old stock unit is fine ...
George
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I wouldn't cut the hoses... Just my opinion though... they aren't cheap in comparison to straight hose, and the quick disconnects come loose from the core very easily. The only clamp I had trouble with was the factory compression clamp on the back hose. I found that a small pair of channel lock pliers worked the best... the bent kneck allowed a little more leverage than straight pliers. Anyway, you can pull the hoses, inspect them, and re-use them if they look ok, mine were fine. I used a piece of 5/8" heater hose about 16" long for the bypass, and used screw type clamps and angled them for easier access when I get ready to swap out the core. Either way, I haven't noticed any difference in engine temp or seen any problems with bypassing the core... it's just a little cool on the way to work in the morning.
I agree... what a PITA. I changed out the stock unit in my 85 Bronco this last fall... it lasted 20 years, no complaints here. It's unbelievable to me that I already have to change out the core in my 99 F150... what is up with that anyway? And what happened to the handy dandy access panel they put on the early 90 explorers? That is the best thing I had ever seen... 4 screws and you're in... 20-30 min. swap tops... Seems like they could have incorporated something like that into all the new vehicles???
Originally Posted by geoaigel
The engineers at the factory should burn in hell for putting the heater core where it is. And the bean counters should burn with them, for buying a cheap POS heater core that doesn't even last 10 years. This is why I went back to a 95 bronco. You can change the core in 30 minutes if it needs to be. So far the 10 year old stock unit is fine ...
George
George
I agree... what a PITA. I changed out the stock unit in my 85 Bronco this last fall... it lasted 20 years, no complaints here. It's unbelievable to me that I already have to change out the core in my 99 F150... what is up with that anyway? And what happened to the handy dandy access panel they put on the early 90 explorers? That is the best thing I had ever seen... 4 screws and you're in... 20-30 min. swap tops... Seems like they could have incorporated something like that into all the new vehicles???
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Welp, for now I have used some Bark's Leak. I accidently got the brand that treats 3 gallons instead of the brand that treats 22 quarts. my truck holds 19.4 quarts so with this 3 gallon treatment bottle im under doing it by 7.4 quarts, but there is 0 smell running the a/c and very small smell running the heater, but im figuring that is antifreeze that is dripped down onto the coils of the heater core and just all in that area? How is that theory? I think Im gonna grab another bottle on the way home 2moro to make up for the 7.4 quarts. I just want this to get me to the summer so I can leave the truck with a friend to do the work while im on vacation or something. During the school year driving to school, then to work, then to school, then home all in one day it would be very difficult to be with out my truck.
I am mechanically inclined but not neeeeear patient enough to take my dash out and keep all the wires and what not organized.
My truck has 191k miles on it. I want it to get me through college and a little past it. So Im figuring if I can make it to 220k miles with no major engine problems I will be happy. I already have purchased a new trans somewhere around 170k so I think I should be pretty good to go except for little things.
I am mechanically inclined but not neeeeear patient enough to take my dash out and keep all the wires and what not organized.
My truck has 191k miles on it. I want it to get me through college and a little past it. So Im figuring if I can make it to 220k miles with no major engine problems I will be happy. I already have purchased a new trans somewhere around 170k so I think I should be pretty good to go except for little things.
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Zman. Sounds exactly like my schedule. Heater core at 185k. Head gasket at 201k.
The anti freeze leftover theory is not bad. I had the same thing even with a new core and a cleaned up duct. I first thougth I am going to loose it. But luckiely the smell went away in a week's time. You should keep an eye on the coolant level, if it doesn't go away in a week or two.
Good Luck!
George
The anti freeze leftover theory is not bad. I had the same thing even with a new core and a cleaned up duct. I first thougth I am going to loose it. But luckiely the smell went away in a week's time. You should keep an eye on the coolant level, if it doesn't go away in a week or two.
Good Luck!
George
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I plan on flushing the system whenever I do get around to having a new heater core installed so hopefully this leak stuff will be in there less than 5k miles.
And by the way if something happens and my head gasket goes out at 201k miles... well lets just say
To you.
Ha Ha. My engine is completley bone dry no leaks anywhere so Im hopin imma be in good shope for the next 40k.
And by the way if something happens and my head gasket goes out at 201k miles... well lets just say
To you.
Ha Ha. My engine is completley bone dry no leaks anywhere so Im hopin imma be in good shope for the next 40k.
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I’m beginning to smell a little antifreeze and notice some antifreeze missing in the bottle. I have a replacement engine so I don’t think it’s the gaskets although I’m going to have it looked at by the mechanic that installed it for warranty. I think I will be replacing the heater core this summer. Are the Auto Zone, etc heater cores any good or should I go with the OEM? 127K miles 97 4.2L Thanks