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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 08:35 AM
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Thumbs down NO 6.4 PSD for '07?

Based on what I just read the 6.4 PSD is not an option listed on the 2007 order form for Super Duty. There is a posting at the V-10 page that gives the following web page to look at the order form www.sunrisefordfleet.com, based on that if it is for real no 6.4(yet). Maybe some who is more knowledgeable about this could verify that this the case. "And it begins" , more speculation.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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This is simply a dealer website order form that hasn't been updated with a new "drop-down" engine type option. All this is saying is that the dealer cannot take orders for a 6.4L because Ford hasn't made that option available. It does not mean that a 6.4L will not be available in a 2007.

I remain convinced that we will likely know when that engine will be available before most Ford dealers.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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The 6.4 will not be available until the 2008 MY, which will likely arrive around the year-end. For the '07 MY, the 6.0 is still the diesel option.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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Could ford do another half year change like they did in 03.

I have heard dodge might make a 2007.5 motor change to the new cummins 6.7L. I could imagine the amount of power that motor will make.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 06:45 AM
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The strongest rumor I'v3 seen is the '07 will be a short run MY. With the '08 / 6.4 to be introduced in the first two months of '07. That's what Ford did with the 1996 F-150....offered the new '97 body syle in late Jan of '96. The '97 MY ran for a long time.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kw5413
The strongest rumor I'v3 seen is the '07 will be a short run MY. With the '08 / 6.4 to be introduced in the first two months of '07.
That's exactly what my dealer told me was said at the dealers' meeting, nearly word for word, and they are one of Ford's top 100 dealers in the country.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Good have you back....F.F. Hope things are going better for your truck.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Thats what they did in 98, the 99 Superduty came out in March 98
 
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Just stop. The end of 2007 is 20 months away! The 6.4 WILL be here in 2007, It may be called an 08, but it will be in 2007. Enough of you know it alls....
 
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 07:02 AM
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Just stop. The end of 2007 is 20 months away! The 6.4 WILL be here in 2007, It may be called an 08, but it will be in 2007. Enough of you know it alls....
?? thats what almost everyone in the thread said.. i don't understand what the problem is?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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I think that is what I said anyway.

And as far as being a "Know it all" is concerned? I do..... At least that is what my wife tells me all the time...evidenced by this quote.."Sure, you know everything".

So you see, knowing it all is not a bad thing.
 

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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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i wouldnt be too worried the redesign of the 6.0 after jan of 06 will keep you guys happy.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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i wouldnt be too worried the redesign of the 6.0 after jan of 06 will keep you guys happy.
what changes did they make ?? Are the 06's far superior to the 03's ??
 
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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what changes did they make ?? Are the 06's far superior to the 03's ??
yes hear is a small list.


Subject: 2006 6.0L Diesel Power Stroke Cylinder Head Commonization
Effective Date: Ford Production Assembly Plants - January 11, 2006
Kentucky Truck Plant (Super Duty) & Lorraine Assembly Plant (Econoline)
Description
Changes are being made to the 6.0L diesel cylinder head, head gasket, crankcase block, rocker
arm carrier and injector hold down clamps for the 2006 Super Duty and Econoline Program. The
action is taking place to facilitate/communize the International manufacturing process for the
upcoming 6.4L program. The 2006 6.0L used in Ford vehicles after January 11, 2006 are being
referred to as "Commonization Engines".
Part number details are provided on a separate excel spreadsheet.

Figure 1 - New cylinder head
1. Carrier boss bolt holes M10 x 1.5
2. Injector clamp bolt holes (relocated)
The new cylinder heads have several casting changes including a slight injector clamp bolt hole
relocation (2, figure 1) and the carrier boss bolt hole size and location changes (1, figure 1). New
cylinder heads also use 32 mm cup plugs replacing the old 28 mm cup plugs.
The cylinder head gasket is also new to accommodate the new 20mm cylinder head location
dowels. Pre commonization head use 18mm dowels
Note: At this time the new cylinder head assembly is not interchangeable with the previously level
head.

Figure 2 – Previous Level Cylinder Head
1. Carrier boss bolt holes M8 x 1.5
2. Injector clamp bolt holes (original locations)
Note: The previous level cylinder head assembly is not interchangeable with the new head.

Figure 3 - New Block Assembly
The new crankcase (block) uses two 20mm cylinder head locating dowels per head.
The old crankcase (block) uses two 18mm cylinder head locating dowels per head.
Note: The new and old block assembly is not interchangeable. This affects replacement of all 6009
short blocks and the 6010 bare blocks.

Rocker Arm Carrier:
Figure 4 - New Rocker Arm Carrier
Casting changes to the rocker carrier provide increased clearance for new injector hold down
clamps (figure 6). The new carrier also uses only 2 bolts and locating dowels to attach the carrier
to the head.
The new rocker carrier is serviced in a Rocker Arm Carrier Kit which includes the rocker carrier
cover, gasket and necessary dowels.
Note: The new and old rocker arm carrier kits are not interchangeable.

Figure 5 – Previous Level Rocker Arm Carrier Kit
The old rocker arm carrier uses 4 attaching bolts to hold the carrier to the old cylinder head (figure
2).
The previous rocker arm carrier is also serviced in a kit which includes the rocker carrier cover,
gasket and necessary dowels.
Note: The previous level rocker arm kit is not interchangeable with the new kit and will remain
available for service.
Injector Hold Down Clamp:
Figure 6 - New Injector Hold Down Clamp Assembly
The tail end of the new injector hold down clamp is being reduced to avoid interference with the
rocker arm carrier wall. Injector hold down clamp bolt torque will increase from 24 lbf·ft to 25.8 lbf·ft
and bolt head size will increase from T40 to T45.
Note: The new and old injector hold down clamps are not in interchangeable.

Figure 7 – Previous Level Injector Hold Down Clamp Assembly
Note: The new and old injector hold down clamps are not in interchangeable. The old injector hold
down clamp will remain available for service.
 
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