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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Idea for new Inline 6

I'm just thinking what if Ford would make a new inline six but in modular form?
This what I think it would be like if you used common 5.4L parts

Modular Inline 6
Bore = 3.552
Stroke = 4.17
4 valve heads
Roller cam
248 cubic inches or 4.0L

For interest I plugged it into desktop Dyno 2000
I used auto calculate to figure out valves and cam lift.

2500 rpm (Regular driving)
120 HP
250 TQ

Peak HP
300 @ 5500 rpm

Peak TQ
300 @ 4000 rpm

That wouldn't be a bad little engine but the next problem would be to make it fit under the hood.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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The problem would be the length of the engine and the problem of the long tall engine intruding into the cab in an accident.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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GM did it successfully with the Trailblazer/Envoy. I like the idea. Unfortunately, there was too little room for it in the compact trucks and they cut off one cylinder to make a five. What do you think of one-half of the V-10 for a new Ranger?

Jim
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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I'm not sure the problem of an I6 making a visit into the cab is all that big a deal. Didn't Ford beef up the F-truck frame to solve that issue? I guess GM solved that issue by running the 4wd front axle through the engine oil pan of the 4.2L I6....

I think that idea with the Ford I6 would be nice, but if push comes to shove, lob a cylinder off it and go with an I5 and put it in the regular cab trucks. I seriously don't see a gasser ~3.4L I5 pushing around a SuperCrew. Or enlarge that 3.4L into a 4.0L, which I had rolled through my mind some time back, but I forgot where I ripped the dimensions from....

A 3.4 I5 wouldn't be bad in a Ranger....Ford thought of using a Volvo 2.8 I5, I believe, but they could sprout an I5 off the Duratec 2.3L. 2.8Lish, if I remember correctly.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 51dueller
I'm just thinking what if Ford would make a new inline six but in modular form?
This what I think it would be like if you used common 5.4L parts

Modular Inline 6
Bore = 3.552
Stroke = 4.17
4 valve heads
Roller cam
248 cubic inches or 4.0L

For interest I plugged it into desktop Dyno 2000
I used auto calculate to figure out valves and cam lift.

2500 rpm (Regular driving)
120 HP
250 TQ

Peak HP
300 @ 5500 rpm

Peak TQ
300 @ 4000 rpm

That wouldn't be a bad little engine but the next problem would be to make it fit under the hood.
Those power numbers seem a little optimistic, don't you think? I mean, that engine is putting out the same power as a 5.4 with 1.5 less liters and 2 less cylinders. Must have some pretty aggressive cam profiles and some monstrous valves. I think a good truck engine would be a 5 liter inline six, with SOHC and a 4v head. Keep the compression and output fairly low, and have a cylinder de-activation program to really squeeze the mileage out of it. Something in the neighborhood of 250-270 hp and 320-330 lbft. But the selling point would be the fuel mileage. You wouldn't want to go too small. A smaller engine isn't really any more efficient than a big one, it just does less work.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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To actually use desktop dyno you have to have, and read the tech manual. Most important actually understand the tech manual. The selection choices in the program do not mean what the short names say. Using the program improperly results in wild and usually inflated numbers.
 

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