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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 02:51 AM
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:40 AM
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MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY...
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY...
Please don't yell at me.

I accidentally double posted somehow, and you are still wrong. I doubt you believe the facts though, and I'm sure your $85 antenna tune magically defeats all physics known to man. Go ahead now, spew out some more false information so the world can see how you look even more like a clown.

I would get my $85 dollars back if anyone told me my swr is less than 1.



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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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on the swr bieng less than 1 I agree with you totally 460, setting the swr is nicknamed matching the antenna, well .5 to 1 doesn't sound very matched to me, perfect is 1:1 (very, very, very few radios can actually acheive perfect if your using a very accurate meter although some cheaper meters will reach that). the guy that charged you $85 to achieve .5 is either a con artist, liar, or an idiot and most likely what he achieved was 1.5:1 and if he took 3hrs and charged $85 to get it all the way down to 1.5 then you got ripped off plain and simple.
Now on the other stuff, I am not going to quote you 460 cause you know what I am talking about and it's a pain to cut and paste, but coming from my folks bieng ham operators as previously mentioned, and my cousin who is a real honest to goodness electrical engineer (yeah I am the dummy in the family having several doctorates, and masters degrees amoung hte rest of them) I don't totally understand all there is to know about this but I have good resources which is why I told you that info, my area of expertise is in other places mainly in auto mechanics. I am not going to get to technical with this cause I barely understand it so explaining it has to be simplified. so as explained to me after asking to make sure of my self and info Watts of a radio transmission is a measurement like Amps is the measurement of electricity, what happens when you try ot shove 50 amps through a 14 ga wire? it gets hot due to resistance, and contrary to popular opinion copper wire does in fact have resistance in it (unless cooled to approx 250 below zero farenhiet) so on a radio you have the same issue when you pump up the output watts it increases the resistance and effective length of the wire that makes up your antenna, and thus changes the SWR. The effective length may only change by fractions of an inch but if you wanna know how much that will affect your radio go cut 1/8" off your antenna.
Another way that this was put for better understanding is to think of both watts and amps as water, now to keep it simple we will equate 1 watt with 1 gallon of water. so you take a water pipe that is 1/2" diameter and put 3 watts/gallons per minute through it. not a problem now take that same pipe and put 300 watts/ gallons per minute through it what happens, it resists very much and takes a great amount of preasure to acheive the same results. Now if you make a super conductor as our antenna than this is not an issue because there is no resistance in that but just copper does infact have resistance that is going to change as you increase the wattage going through it.
I hope I was able to get the basic idea through clear enough for people to understand it. And yes I know I have to recalibrate the SWR meter (which should be your first clue that things have changed when you jump the watts up using an amp)
And 460 I wasn't picking on you, and definatly wasn't picking on you for bieng a new user, thats frankly something I really don't pay much attention to, and will counter what i feel to be misinformation from anyone. And I felt that this was wrong as told to me by people that really are experts in this type of stuff. like I said I am not but have some pretty good sources. And if you felt like I was getting to personal attacking you I appologize it was not my intent in anyway shape or form. Oh and I didn't jump on tjc cause one I hadn't noticed it, and 2 he wasn't really "correcting" me just stating what he does, I don't have a problem there. but once again sorry if you felt like it was directed at you personally cause it sure wasn't
 

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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by monsterbaby
The effective length may only change by fractions of an inch but if you wanna know how much that will affect your radio go cut 1/8" off your antenna.
No way man, I like my big whip just the way it is


No biggie, everythings fine with me, it just seemed like you were worked up a bit at what I said... I'm sorry if I took you the wrong way.

As a driver yourself, you know what I mean when I say that cb radios are more mis-understood than understood just by some of the things you hear on the radio... like the guy who isn't getting out very well, so another driver says to "turn up the RF Gain"... ya, like that's gonna help him transmit better. And people worried about the "finals" in their Cobra 29, when in fact there is only one "final". And then you always have the guy who "knows" that his Cobra 29 is doing 50 watts because his cb shop says so.

Anyway, all is good, and have a nice day



 
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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OMG thanks for just making my day, yeah I hear all those and more, but of coarse you know that you can't transmite across the medium to oncoming traffic cause some of the states have started planting RF suppressing grass, or you need to rotate your antenna 90 degrees to the left.<a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_ZNxdm824BXUS' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_205.gif' alt='Rolly 3' border=0></a>
 
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Yes, but RF suppressing grass is no match for a secret device I have installed in my radio called a "Median Modulator"...

Bear reports seem like they harder and harder to come by nowadays, so I have changed the way I ask:

"Westbound, where did you leave the bears at you secret keeping sissies?"

or I say

"Westbound, you look good back to your mamma's house... where'd you leave em at?"

 
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by monsterbaby
you know that you can't transmite across the medium to oncoming traffic cause some of the states have started planting RF suppressing grass, or you need to rotate your antenna 90 degrees to the left.

NO NO NO !!!! you got it all wrong again!!!!
you cant transmit across the median to oncoming traffic cause you don't have a frequency directional reversal device. to properly transmit to someone coming the other way, you need one of these very important frequency directional reversal devices. what it does is convert the outgoing signal from a northbound direction to a southbound direction, or vicey-versey, so the radio receiver of the person going the opposite direction cam properly read your transmitted signal....
 
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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hey can I get one of those frequency directional reversal devices at the same store I been buying tanker load locks, and universal blinker fluid or do they have to be special ordered. Heck that must explain why the only time I get a bear report is right after I pass the bear.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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yup, but i have found that kalocoauto has better prices on them.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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You've all got it wrong,all you have to have is enough power to melt the guard-rails and burn down any tall weeds in the way.....FF59 (AKA-REDBEARD on the slab)
 
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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ff59, thats why i have the exhaust set as sidepipes, with flame throwers in the tips. plus, as a side benefit, the state pays me to burn the weeds and grass. it keeps them from having to send out a mowing crew.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Well, being here in New Jersey it is real hard to look redneck, but I try anyway. Got the 94 Crew cab dually and am putting the 102 whip on the rear bumper passenger side. All part of my anti terrorist escape plan. Radios, water, canned food, tent, cots, extra diesel, inverter, etc. all set up in three packs/kits to throw in the bed under the cap. Wife, too I guess. Heading west I would think. Sounds nuts. But how quickly we forget.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 03:30 AM
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[QUOTE=drivespline] to throw in the bed under the cap. Wife, too I guess. /QUOTE]

does she go in the bed under the cap to???
 
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 06:48 AM
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Guess so but then I'll have to tow an extra bed for me.
 
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