Notices
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

Chips vs Programers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 11, 2006 | 01:25 AM
  #1  
redneckboy's Avatar
redneckboy
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 374
Likes: 0
From: Las Vegas,nv
Chips vs Programers

Im new to the whole modification thing and I am wondering what is the difference between chips and programers how do they work in general and is one safer than the other as far as not ruining the engine or damaging parts. Also does one work better than the other on 7.3Ls or why would you use on over the other. And I really appreciate the help i get on here from everyone. I know i ask a lot of questions.
 
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2006 | 03:16 AM
  #2  
jtharvey's Avatar
jtharvey
Lead Driver
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 7,413
Likes: 1
From: Columbia, MO
We all asked a lot of questions at one point in time, and most of us still do ask a lot of questions. You've got to start somewhere.

My personal preference in chip vs tuner -- the chip hands down. Your best bet to try and run some searches on the forum for the most info. This topic has been debated time and time again.

But, I'll give you a quick rundown anyhow.
Programmers: Predator, SCMT, etc. all plug into the OBD-II port under the dash. You load one program at a time and keep it that way until you change it. No customization at all for your specific truck. Benefits, most have a code reader. Downsides, if you want to change your programming, you have to shut the truck off and load a new one.

Chips: DP Tuner type flip chips. Physical device that installs onto the computer in the truck. It stays in all the time. You can generally get 4-6 different programs loaded onto one chip. There is a **** for the chip that you can mount on the dash (or wherever you want to) that allows you to change the programming you run on the fly. You don't have to shut the truck off to change programming. You can get some custom tunes made for your truck with a chip as well. I know Jody at DP Tuner asks a lot of questions about your truck and any mods you have when you order one of his chips. Downsides, can be a bit more expensive (but worth every penny more, IMO) and there is no code reading capabilities.

There have been a lot of guys here who have changed from a programmer to a chip (including myself) and have been extremely pleased with the chip over the programmer. But, I don't think I know of anyone that has taken their chip out so they can run a programmer.
 
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2006 | 08:13 AM
  #3  
4X4 IN REFUGIO's Avatar
4X4 IN REFUGIO
Elder User
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 582
Likes: 0
From: Refugio, Texas
Having Used Both A Programmer And A Chip....... I Would Say That I Think Most People Would Be More Satisfied With Chip.
 
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2006 | 08:59 AM
  #4  
PowerstrokeJunkie's Avatar
PowerstrokeJunkie
Post Fiend
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 14,582
Likes: 12
From: 21791
Originally Posted by jtharvey
There have been a lot of guys here who have changed from a programmer to a chip (including myself) and have been extremely pleased with the chip over the programmer. But, I don't think I know of anyone that has taken their chip out so they can run a programmer.
that is so true. i was running a Fueling box, (edge Juice/Attitude), then stacked a programmer, ( Edge evolution) onto it, and then removed the fueling box. then ran with the programmer solo while i waited for the chip to arrive. the chip is hands down, ALOT better than any of the three combinations i ran before. my suggestion is to skip the tuner, go right for the chip, accompanied by gauges, possibly an exhaust.
 
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2006 | 10:48 AM
  #5  
turbostroke's Avatar
turbostroke
Senior User
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 262
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by jtharvey
We all asked a lot of questions at one point in time, and most of us still do ask a lot of questions. You've got to start somewhere.

My personal preference in chip vs tuner -- the chip hands down. Your best bet to try and run some searches on the forum for the most info. This topic has been debated time and time again.

But, I'll give you a quick rundown anyhow.
Programmers: Predator, SCMT, etc. all plug into the OBD-II port under the dash. You load one program at a time and keep it that way until you change it. No customization at all for your specific truck. Benefits, most have a code reader. Downsides, if you want to change your programming, you have to shut the truck off and load a new one.

Chips: DP Tuner type flip chips. Physical device that installs onto the computer in the truck. It stays in all the time. You can generally get 4-6 different programs loaded onto one chip. There is a **** for the chip that you can mount on the dash (or wherever you want to) that allows you to change the programming you run on the fly. You don't have to shut the truck off to change programming. You can get some custom tunes made for your truck with a chip as well. I know Jody at DP Tuner asks a lot of questions about your truck and any mods you have when you order one of his chips. Downsides, can be a bit more expensive (but worth every penny more, IMO) and there is no code reading capabilities.

There have been a lot of guys here who have changed from a programmer to a chip (including myself) and have been extremely pleased with the chip over the programmer. But, I don't think I know of anyone that has taken their chip out so they can run a programmer.
Excellent write-up JT......Redneckboy I would also have a vote for a chip. If you need more reading material on the downsides of programmers just jump over to the 6.0 forums one time. I have the old-style superchips module in mine and she's still ticking. My $.02
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:50 AM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE