292 trans
292 trans
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If I'm understanding you correctly, you want to know which engines have automatic transmissions that will fit a 292. Well....it's not real easy, unfortunately, but there are some answers.
The Y-block has a unique bellhousing pattern. Unfortunately, all the "modern" Ford engine families have different patterns: the SBF (either pattern) & Cleveland, the FE, & the BBF/351M/400. None of these will fit directly. So, here's the options.
1) Get a Ford-O-Matic or Merc-O-Matic from another Y-block: a 239, 256, 272, 292, or 312. You didn't specify whether your vehicle is a car or truck, but you will need to get the trans from a corresponding vehicle as the truck bellhousings have side mounts & cars do not. This is obviously pretty much a bolt-in, but the disadvantage (possibly) is that the F-O-M is heavy, & hard to get performance parts for (if that is an issue). They can be easily rebuilt to stock specs & are reasonably reliable. Also, some F-O-Ms are air-cooled, not the greatest thing. Car F-O-Ms are not too uncommon, trucks are a little harder to find, but out there.
2) Use a Ford-O-Matic bellhousing and adapt a later FMX trans (which is a descendant of the F-O-M.) The FMX is common & fairly easy to find; the same two negatives apply. There is a little more work involved & some machining, but not too bad.
3) Use a Flat-O-Matic adapter bellhousing and a '70-up C-4. The C-4 is dirt cheap, easy to find, & a great trans. Performance parts are very common. However, the kit isn't cheap, about $450 or cars, $535 for trucks. That does not include the trans or any needed driveshaft mods. The adapter fits the C-4 only, nothing else. For a daily driver it may be more desirable to use an overdrive. For the occasional cruiser, the extra gas costs will take a while to equal the larger initial cost of an overdrive trans & pricier kit (below).
4) Use a Bendtsen or Gary Croan (Bristol Services Co.) adapter. The Gary Croan adapter works with the AOD and is said to be a well-engineered kit, though expensive. I have been told that Gary will work with a customer to provide any or all parts needed, up to & including the trans & installation.
The Bendtsen adapter is said to work with virtually all modern Ford auto trans, including the C4, C6, AOD, & others. I have not heard particularly good things about the directions, customer service, and follow-up tech support, but I have no personal experience, so... Price is around $600 for the adapter; one online account of an install states that his total cost was around $1500, if I recall.
This is probably the first or second most common question asked about the Y-block, and probably the biggest reason why people want to swap a newer drivetrain into their vehicle. If you are willing to scrounge a little & have patience, you'll find that the Y-block is more than worth the initial hassle.
If you are interested in any of these options we can give you some more specific info, sources, & links.
If I'm understanding you correctly, you want to know which engines have automatic transmissions that will fit a 292. Well....it's not real easy, unfortunately, but there are some answers.
The Y-block has a unique bellhousing pattern. Unfortunately, all the "modern" Ford engine families have different patterns: the SBF (either pattern) & Cleveland, the FE, & the BBF/351M/400. None of these will fit directly. So, here's the options.
1) Get a Ford-O-Matic or Merc-O-Matic from another Y-block: a 239, 256, 272, 292, or 312. You didn't specify whether your vehicle is a car or truck, but you will need to get the trans from a corresponding vehicle as the truck bellhousings have side mounts & cars do not. This is obviously pretty much a bolt-in, but the disadvantage (possibly) is that the F-O-M is heavy, & hard to get performance parts for (if that is an issue). They can be easily rebuilt to stock specs & are reasonably reliable. Also, some F-O-Ms are air-cooled, not the greatest thing. Car F-O-Ms are not too uncommon, trucks are a little harder to find, but out there.
2) Use a Ford-O-Matic bellhousing and adapt a later FMX trans (which is a descendant of the F-O-M.) The FMX is common & fairly easy to find; the same two negatives apply. There is a little more work involved & some machining, but not too bad.
3) Use a Flat-O-Matic adapter bellhousing and a '70-up C-4. The C-4 is dirt cheap, easy to find, & a great trans. Performance parts are very common. However, the kit isn't cheap, about $450 or cars, $535 for trucks. That does not include the trans or any needed driveshaft mods. The adapter fits the C-4 only, nothing else. For a daily driver it may be more desirable to use an overdrive. For the occasional cruiser, the extra gas costs will take a while to equal the larger initial cost of an overdrive trans & pricier kit (below).
4) Use a Bendtsen or Gary Croan (Bristol Services Co.) adapter. The Gary Croan adapter works with the AOD and is said to be a well-engineered kit, though expensive. I have been told that Gary will work with a customer to provide any or all parts needed, up to & including the trans & installation.
The Bendtsen adapter is said to work with virtually all modern Ford auto trans, including the C4, C6, AOD, & others. I have not heard particularly good things about the directions, customer service, and follow-up tech support, but I have no personal experience, so... Price is around $600 for the adapter; one online account of an install states that his total cost was around $1500, if I recall.
This is probably the first or second most common question asked about the Y-block, and probably the biggest reason why people want to swap a newer drivetrain into their vehicle. If you are willing to scrounge a little & have patience, you'll find that the Y-block is more than worth the initial hassle.
If you are interested in any of these options we can give you some more specific info, sources, & links.
Last edited by Homespun91; Feb 8, 2006 at 11:55 AM. Reason: sp
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Flatomatic has been testing an AOD package, I havent been keeping up with progress reports since the AOD isnt the most reliable of trannies.
The one place that may have it or will be willing to consider it as a product is Wilcap. They more than likely will even do an adaptor to a 700R4 which IMO can be built Ford Tough.
The one place that may have it or will be willing to consider it as a product is Wilcap. They more than likely will even do an adaptor to a 700R4 which IMO can be built Ford Tough.
