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Schools remarks
I sent an e-mail to my daughters school, to see if we could move her locker location. As it is now she must cary all her books in her book bag. Her classes are mostly on the ground floor, but her locker is on the third. She is starting to have back and neck pains from carying this weight of all her books. I am guessing 30 lbs. I had no idea just how heavy it was till she handed it to me. The school said the lockers are assigned, and that the rest are for new students. 
Then in the reply at the bottom is a note. "if you are the smartest person in your group of friends, then you need to find a different group." How should i take this. Your thoughts please!Dave P.
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From: Somewhere in da corn,Iowa
If they refuse to move it, and your child suffers extreme pain, you may be able to sue the school since it is a health concern. If it were my child(or me since I'm still in school) I would be extremely upset with the school's reaction to your letter, you would think they would look out for the best interests of the child, since, isn't that what schools are supposed to do? Send another letter from an attorney saying there may be legal reprocussions if they do not move and she develops problems with her neck and back. Best of luck to you and your daughter, I hope she gets her locker moved, I know how heavy those books can get.
Best of luck,
Fiftyfourdf100
Tucker
Best of luck,
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From: MA
The message could just be a harmless quote the person has a email signature, just as some on FTE have. It may be offensive to some, but no harm was intended.
Everything can be looked at in a different light.
As for the locker situation I would go to the school to speak with the principle. If that doesn't work then the Superintendent's office. If your daughter has a doctors note then she should have been able to move the locker.
This is a common situation in the schools and a growing problem. I don't know why they still use books. Why not hand out CD-ROM's. They are a lot lighter and you can get most books in this format.... Probably the publishers don't want to loose the money..
Everything can be looked at in a different light.
As for the locker situation I would go to the school to speak with the principle. If that doesn't work then the Superintendent's office. If your daughter has a doctors note then she should have been able to move the locker.
This is a common situation in the schools and a growing problem. I don't know why they still use books. Why not hand out CD-ROM's. They are a lot lighter and you can get most books in this format.... Probably the publishers don't want to loose the money..
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From: Damascus-Boring, Ore
Didn't like the response?
Say so...
Shoot him/her back an email, express your displeasure with the response (politely), and ask to set up a meeting at a mutually convenient time to discuss it further.
Say so...
Shoot him/her back an email, express your displeasure with the response (politely), and ask to set up a meeting at a mutually convenient time to discuss it further.
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From: Oregon
I think a firm, polite letter to the school board outlining your concerns about distance and the snide reply from the school is in order. You should include in the letter something to the effect of:
"As a taxpayer, I expect and demand professional conduct from school employees."
Even if the bottom line is a quote tag line - it's not appropriate and not professional.
The way I read the bottom line certainly raised my blood pressure.
"As a taxpayer, I expect and demand professional conduct from school employees."
Even if the bottom line is a quote tag line - it's not appropriate and not professional.
The way I read the bottom line certainly raised my blood pressure.
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Go to the school and talk to someone other than a staff member. Staff member is nothing but a title they actually don't anything but set on their thumbs and spin. I remember carrying excessive books during high school and it can cause long term back problems. If I remember right my mom went after the high school for basically the same problem with my sister. Don't ever mess with a mom. I'd meet with the principle or assistant principle if I was in your shoes. If that doesn't work lawyers work wonders.
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From: Damascus-Boring, Ore
ericsmith32 Don't ever mess with a mom.
There's words to live by.
Mrs. Bear read this thread, and suspects that, given the tag line at the end of the email, a student assistant in the office probably wrote it.
There's words to live by.
Mrs. Bear read this thread, and suspects that, given the tag line at the end of the email, a student assistant in the office probably wrote it.
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Man, oh, man, is that enough to make the ol' temper run free or what?
Don't reply via e-mail. Arrange to be there in person. I am willing to bet you'll get more respect. It's amazing how much more civil folks are when you're right next to them sometimes.
People do all kinds of whacky, nasty, and mean-spirited stuff on the internet or the phone that they would never dream of doing if you were there in person. I suspect it is because they feel isolated from consequences. Strip that protective layer away, and suddenly everything is different.
If you go the e-mail route, it'll be just like with "flame wars" on forums.
I would send a letter to the School Board, too, though. I would enclose a copy of the reply you got and ask if this was the sort of personnel that the School Board felt were imminently qualified to serve the best interests of the taxpayer.
Don't even get me started on backpacks. That is a rant for another day, friend.
Don't reply via e-mail. Arrange to be there in person. I am willing to bet you'll get more respect. It's amazing how much more civil folks are when you're right next to them sometimes.
People do all kinds of whacky, nasty, and mean-spirited stuff on the internet or the phone that they would never dream of doing if you were there in person. I suspect it is because they feel isolated from consequences. Strip that protective layer away, and suddenly everything is different.
If you go the e-mail route, it'll be just like with "flame wars" on forums.
I would send a letter to the School Board, too, though. I would enclose a copy of the reply you got and ask if this was the sort of personnel that the School Board felt were imminently qualified to serve the best interests of the taxpayer.
Don't even get me started on backpacks. That is a rant for another day, friend.
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Seems people are going "way" out here, -cool down!
Even tho it was against the "rules" the kids around here just swap lockers themselves among friends. Sometimes they even share lockers.
The kids learn how to bend the rules to survive, a valuable lesson/skill in our world.
I am sure the quotation at the bottom of the email was one of the anti-gang slogans pushed by the schools nowadays. Don't try to read any sinister meaning into it.
Even tho it was against the "rules" the kids around here just swap lockers themselves among friends. Sometimes they even share lockers.
The kids learn how to bend the rules to survive, a valuable lesson/skill in our world.I am sure the quotation at the bottom of the email was one of the anti-gang slogans pushed by the schools nowadays. Don't try to read any sinister meaning into it.
Last edited by Torque1st; Feb 6, 2006 at 11:57 PM.
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I dont understand it, Colleges are using CD roms now for books, most public schools should catch on and do so too. cds are cheaper, and lighter. the only drawback, is handing them out to students that dont have a computer, which is hardly anyone these days.
Carrying a bag from the third floor down to the ground level with that much stuff is total bs. as others have said, ask politely to meet with school officials and attempt to resolve it, if that fails, definately get a lawyer.
Carrying a bag from the third floor down to the ground level with that much stuff is total bs. as others have said, ask politely to meet with school officials and attempt to resolve it, if that fails, definately get a lawyer.
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If she is THAT smart, she don't carry all of her books to each class.
DOES SHE?
Sucker...
There is something else about that locker location she is NOT telling you.
Depend on it.
DOES SHE?
Sucker...
There is something else about that locker location she is NOT telling you.
Depend on it.
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An in person approach is the best method. Take a bag with the same weight in it and ask the powers to be to carry as far as your daughter has to. Then ask if something can be done. They might be more willing to listen then.
As far as the quote goes. As said before, (only in other words) it is more likely something got got pushed on them by some space cadet polication.
Tom
As far as the quote goes. As said before, (only in other words) it is more likely something got got pushed on them by some space cadet polication.
Tom
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The response you got back wasn't professional at all and should be brought to the attention of the principal and the school board to start with. If there is a doctor note that will back you that it is causing problems then the school is going to be forced to do something then. I would start with a calm meeting with the principal to discuss it and if no satisfaction then contact a attorney and let them contact the school board.
As far as the computers I agree that it would seem a lot simpler to do, but I saw on the news a school in Ca that was doing it and they were charging the parents $1500 for the laptop. To me it should be a situation that you need to have a laptop meeting certain requirements and if you do then you could use your own. Even at that though it does seem like $1500 is a awful lot for a laptop just for school use.
As far as the computers I agree that it would seem a lot simpler to do, but I saw on the news a school in Ca that was doing it and they were charging the parents $1500 for the laptop. To me it should be a situation that you need to have a laptop meeting certain requirements and if you do then you could use your own. Even at that though it does seem like $1500 is a awful lot for a laptop just for school use.