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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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I read with interest the posts on the bullies. I was smashed in the face back in 1970, just standing at the bus stop, minding my own business. Three years later, I joined the military and grew up fast. That is not the reason for this post, even though I feel this information is related. It is reason however, at some point you need to draw a line a stand up for yourself. A post by Goose pg 4, shed some light on the fact what has been going on for the past few decades, what your are witnessing, has been intentional. All media is totally controlled. You see and hear what they want you to. You will not see reporting of how many, many thousands of people die or get mutilated by car accidents (you wouldn't drive), who gets fleeced by employers & insurance companies, who is maimed by a dr., nor will you see stories of people that have either beat the system, or have made a stand against the machine. If you do, they are few and far between. People that stand up for what is right, using Law,Truth or physical force, may find they no longer have a name, just a number. If you can not stand up for your Rights, you don't have any. The prisons (many privately owned corporations run for profit) are full of people that tried to stand up for themselves, or do not deserve to be there for other reasons. With these folks out of the way, the rest are easy pushovers. What I would like to offer requires you to look outside the bubble that has been created intentionally for you, by social programing, the schools, movies, and media. I had possession of a news article printed about Dec 28, 1994. This article stated the NWO was using satellite beam technology to create the Kobe, Japan Earthquake as the "big boys" of Japan were not being cooperative. The earthquake happened Jan 17, 1995! This article tells you who, how and why. I attempted to forward this link, and my computer and modem locked up, and I never had that happen before. I had to delete all files associated with that information. If you are interested in the truth, it can still be found at fourwinds10(dot)com, click on Phonenix Archives, CONTACT, Dec 1994, "Recent Sky Activity." I would suggest the same group is responsible for W.Tx, RR.Idaho, O.C.OK,the Trade Towers, your loss of pensions, jobs, social benefits, payment of fed taxes you don't owe, Enron, Global Crossings, Katrina non-response, etc..... In my State for example, you do not get a "title" for your house or car. You get a "certificate of title." Your property is used as collateral for debt by the State. The State also declares you an "orphan of the State" prior to issuing a marriage license, in which case you have agreed to be their property. The "BAR", is the British Acredited Regency" of England. If you thought the schoolyard bully was a threat to your lives, I suggest there a much bigger problems facing all of us at this moment. Anyone witnessing the live news coverage of the poor folks in the Kartina disaster, knows their situation was not an accident, an oversight, or red tape. This was intentional.
I am seeing intentional fraud in my county with processing of food stamps, health care benefits, social security fraud, irs fruad, veteran's benefit fraud. Least I mention what is going on with the Chemtrails! Search skywatch911 & harmful effects of Chemtrails.... the net is a powerful tool. There is a very small sector of the population willing to look at these ugly issues, and even less willing to do anything about it. At least, that's what they would like you to believe. There are and have been private groups meeting for decades trying to change all this. Be interesting to see who survives the beast, I mean bully. Much may depend on how small a box you are willing to walk into.
The Universe is a really big place. I suggest we are not alone on this planet, and further suggest your reality has been created! Search the web!
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Oh my. If I may ask, why do you feel that what you find on the net contains any more or less truth than we see in other media such as TV and/or radio?
 
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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Well, for one, try and get this information printed in your local newspaper, or have it aired by your local tv station. If you have the time, check out the articles I've mentioned. There is absolute proof of how that earthquake was created, and why. I offer this informaton as fact. It has already happened. It was documented, and in print, before it happened. You will have to decide what you feel is true or not, based on the information you have been given, the evidence, and the credibility of the source having provided that information. Physical evidence, has no bias. It either is, or is not.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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I have to disagree with this.

Daily, I read endless amount of newspapers online that are for the most part copies of the paper editions around the world.

There is story after story on these places about the content you mention.

Here is one list I pick from:

http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/englanda-k.htm


The province I live in:
http://www.world-newspapers.com/alberta.html

Here is the Canadian page.

http://www.broadcast-live.com/newspapers/canadian.html

These papers are full of these type stories.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 11:48 PM
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Reality is created. And some of us would like to go out in the world after college and continue creating it. So if you'd kindly just step back in line and stop talking about us... I mean them, that'd be super.

(And you didn't hear it from me, but you might not want to be handling any of the newspapers owned by News Corp... the inks are "special".)
 
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by yechave
Well, for one, try and get this information printed in your local newspaper, or have it aired by your local tv station. If you have the time, check out the articles I've mentioned. There is absolute proof of how that earthquake was created, and why. I offer this informaton as fact. It has already happened. It was documented, and in print, before it happened. You will have to decide what you feel is true or not, based on the information you have been given, the evidence, and the credibility of the source having provided that information. Physical evidence, has no bias. It either is, or is not.
Oh, I've gone to and read the material on some of the sites you mention. Sadly, it does not agree with the many years of formal education in the sciences that I have had.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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I expect most everyone will soon be more than shocked at what is on the horizon. I say this, after what has already been seen by all the disasters of 2005. There are not many venues that will allow this information to be posted for one. What I am sharing, is based entirely on fact with regard to the Kobe earthquake. That has nothing to do with your education, or what you believe. That, is now a proven fact. I had received a copy of the Contact paper, a week prior to the earthquake. When I turned on the tv on Jan 17, 1995, I was absolutely stunned, knowing this was not just predicted due to advanced intelligence, but witnessed by the author and documented, prior to the event.

The rest of the information, I respectfully submit, is firsthand experience dealing with the govt' agencies listed in my original post, as well as living with a social worker that deals with clients losing or not getting their benefits they are lawfully entitled to. I have spent the last 15 years experiencing what I am talking about. I know others that have done the same. Possibly, I should have only provided the info on the earthquake. It is all related!

I must admit the impetus for standing up to all this bullpoop, is having met and studied, for too short a time, under a master Common Law expert, that had lost everything. He had been a highly paid and well respected electrical engineer. He was put in jail and beat by the police a number of times, as were others of this common law group. I was fortunate one day to see him on the public cable channel, making an *** out of the panel of State Officials, other elected officials and lawyers, which were there to debunk his testimony. One big mouth lawyer walked off the live tv show, after he was put to shame. It was the most inspirational, publicly televised event, I have ever witnessed. I then realized there was more than a ***** in the armour of what you are being told by your govt', FOX & CNN. This one person has made such a huge difference in my life. I have gone on to win case after case, on my own, due to this one persons inspiration. I hope to do the same by sharing my story.

I've spent the last seven years attempting to stop the unlawful harrasement by the IRS, charging me a civil penalty, for not paying a debt, which they agree now, I never owed. They stole this money from my social security, without due process. No one provided a lawful documentation or provided a name of the agent that issued any excuse to take this money, yet they were able to steal this money due to a new law passed last year which enable them to put your name on a list, and deduct 15% of your income, just because some unnamed SOB in the US govt' has decided to take your money. There was no appeal!
Now, it may sound as if I lost, and I have paid with many many hours of my time, and had $210 stolen by the Dept of Treasury. That is the total amount these crooks have been able to get for the past 15 yrs! I suggest you as well, do not owe this tax, unless you are a corporate entity.
How much do you volunteer to the United Nations under the guise of the Federal Income tax hoax each year?

I have mailed, e-mailed, called and sent certified letters to the Dept of Treasury, IRS, my State rep, Congressman and Senator with all lawful documents regarding the tax issue, and not one of these will return any correspondence. I had requested, from each of these offices, to refute the evidence of Law, and I would pay this tax. Not one office could do that. I would recommend you check out the Irwin Schiff web site and the Jim Trafficant web pages.

For three years, I was told my veterans NSO was processing my disability claim, which was initiated by the SSA which is required prior to getting SSD. I had no reason to not trust this man, and yet, three years later I could prove beyond any doubt, that he had never processed the claim, and had intentionally provided false information as to what was being done about it. I dismissed him and revoked POA, processed the claim on my own and received four years of pension due, in less than 30 days. He apologized for any harm he may have caused. He had the same look on his face as the female State Tropper in New Orleans, when she was asked, live on Fox tv, why no one was coming to help the people on I-10. Check the military.com web sites, and see how many vets are denied their benefits! I had to study IRS Code, Constitutional Law, & Common Law for three years to learn enough to defend myself from this criminally fruadulent agency. Some of the best information came from short wave radio and the intelligence report, which has since been shut down.

For the second time in two years, I can prove the intentionally fruadulent processing of food stamps applications by the county office. These incidences are no more a fluke than what you see with the Kartina victims.

I've spent the past few weeks e-mailing details and talking to my State Reps office, which has not even provided a DPW name and phone number I had requested. How many others do you think have lost benefits they are entitled to, by Law?

All but dead from undiagnosed cancer in 1998, I agreed to a SSA medical exam, which lasted 5 mins from the time I entered the building. It took 18 months of hell to get my disability, and that was only after I requested to subpoena the turkey that provided a fraudlent medical evaulation, stating nothing was wrong. Not one law office would take my case. I had to educate myself on the Law, and finally won my case, on my own. My letters of denial came from the International Dept of Social Security.

All this research has led me on a most unusual path, and I suggest I now am aware of informaton that most people, no matter what your formal education, might be privy to.

NAFTA is more than 15,000 pages. With that much convoluted information and Law, do you at all think any of this was in the best interest of the US workers? What do you think when you hear Ford and GM are laying off 60,000 more workers and closing plants? Now who do you think created this monster?

You might not be all that interested in cancer, until you get it. You might think it is something people get, in some other city. I just happen, coincidence or not, to live next to five homes on about 10 acres with nine people. There have been four neck or thyroid, one prostate, two breast, and two skin cancers, that I know of, just in these five adjoining homes. I am now aware of more than 20 people that have had thyroid cancer just from meeting people that have "the scar", five in one family! Any coincidence that all the nuclear gases were vented at Three Mile Island nuclear plant (less than 2 hrs from where we live), some years back. They did not tell the public of that either, until years later. We have lost more than eight pets to cancer in the last six years. Visit the vets office, I guarantee you will see many more pets with cancer. We have one of the largest cancer centers I am aware of. They just had an article in the local paper, the residents of the entire county asking for an answer to all the cancers, and the research they released, stated there is nothing unusual!!!

My companion's brother in another State, a highly intelligent retired aerospace engineer, suggested we move. A year later he loses his daughter-in-law to cancer, who was not yet 35 and just had her first baby. He thought they lived in a safe area of the country.

This brings up the topic of Chemtrails. If you are not aware, read Skywatch 911, or search Chemtrails. Not one agency or newspaper will reply to my requests for information, nor reply to the many photos sent to them.

This is not addressed to anyone personally. If you think you have enough experience in just a few decades of life experience to know what is going on here, stay tunned. If you think the pretty US flag with the gold fringe was created to look impressive for ceremonies and tv, you might want to do some checking into that one.

Can you imagine the first poor guy in his company to walk on a mine in Viet Nam going into new territory, and before it exploded, tries to tell the next guy "were are in a mine field, I just stepped on one".... and the second guy, his CO, says, "you have no idea what your talking about, I have a college education, I went to "the accademy", I was completely informed about this area, and there are no mines here, keep going!"... there is no lack of ingorance or dead heroes.

All this, just trying to inform you, WHO created the Kobe earthquake.......
WE should all be alarmed! There is more than enough evidence to support the other events I've listed as well, if you are willing to look with an open mind.

I am telling you, there is fraud being orchestrated by every level of govt'. Not just what has and is now happening in New Orleans.

A great book to get started is "Defrauding America" by Rodney Stich.

If you feel that what you see on TV and in the media controlled newspapers, is "true", maybe it is.... maybe not. I do not believe you will have much longer to make an educated decision.

If, you happen to hear on CNN that NESARA has just been enacted, I suggest if might be a good time to pay attention to what has being offered.

A smart man learns by his mistakes. A wise man learns by the mistakes of others!

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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Too many topics for me to focus on at once. I'm arguing that it is not possible (for man) to initiate an earthquake (of that magnitude) or manipulate a weather system to focus it in a specific area with that inensity.

I agree on some of your other issues regarding corporate America. I give up with the IRS, I just pay my taxes, I have too much to loose otherwise.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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Search patents on weather control. www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1352.cfm for starters. Japan might not have believed the atomic bomb existed either. Search the HAARP program. Watch "Conspiracy Theory with Mel Gibson." Truth is stranger than fiction. See what you can find about Virgil Armstrong (2012).
The truth is not altered by what you believe. You are born knowing nothing. You are educated by "the system" created to control you, twenty-thirty+ years later, you think you know it all. Then, if you are lucky, you realize (possibly not by choice), you really don't know very much. Then you start looking for the truth. Once you find it, there is no turning back! It is pretty much like the movie "Matrix."
 
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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Humans are naturally skeptical about anything that doesn't fit in with what they already believe. The things you are saying would fall into this category. In other words, don't be too surprised if very few people belive you. I don't.

Also, try sticking to a single focused topic. Might help.

Enjoy your tinfoil hat.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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You are so very correct! The point of sharing so much info on this one post was because, this information IS all connected. The "truth" is not based on what you believe. Your accumulated philosophic or scientific knowledge is based on "supposedly" truthful facts you may have been educated into believing, to make your determination. If you were to believe certain facts or events as being the only truth (ie: the Earth's surface was once believed to be flat), and someone were to disprove just one of those facts, the rest of these truths then become suspect or at least open to re-investigation. For many, they have no need or may not at all be interested in what may or may not be true. A happy dog living in a nice home is not as concerned with being euthanized, as say a dog that has been abandoned and living in the street. That may be until it's owner loses his good paying American job due to the NAFTA agreement, and then is forced to move to an appartment which does not allow dogs... sorta looks like it depends on how happy you are, and what you may want or need to know once the crap hits the fan!
 

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I will interject that it seems the people who have it all "figured out" and purport to finally have found the truth, are often the people who have been fooled in to believing in someone else's agenda.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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If you find someone that has it all figured out, I sure would appreciate your letting me know. If you have the time, please refer to the "Contact" article mentioned in the original post, which was printed Dec 1994. Then read the accounts of the Kobe earthquake of Jan 1995. If you have the time, please post your thoughts on just the information regarding the Kobe earthquake. I really am not all that concerned with what you believe "you think" it is I know. I am only interested in what can or has already been proven. It is with this understanding that the reader will use discernment in determining what is right and true for them personally. Kindest Regards
 
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Just because somone is paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :-) -- I read an article recently that Russia has been responsible for the hurricanes lately too. Personally I tend to think that while there might be some facts to these stories, I put them in the same catagory with the people that think they faked the moon landing. Those facts do not significantly effect me in Rual Kansas. I have earned the freedom to believe or disbelieve, and I chose not to. You have the right to believe otherwise. You spent a lot of time chosing your words and voicing your opinion...which I have a degree of respect for.. but many people are going to be automatically defensive to your stated opinion, and will automatically believe you to be stirring up an aurgument (especially with your small amount of post on this forum).
 
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Huh??
 
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