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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 02:04 AM
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All cars and trucks are just raw materials to make something you like.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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Let's not forget that there is no replacement for displacement. Bigger is better. Too much is never enough.....enter your cliche here. Go for it, and don't worry about the naysayers.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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well i was planning on building a monster 500 for the LUV so i have some parts for the 500 already, Edel. intake and an 800cfm carb, headers, and ill be boring it out and getting shome better rods and rod studs for it. ill also be re-machining a set of 455 olds rocker shafts so it will rev a bit higher than 5000rpm whith out hurting the top end. Thoughts of blowing it have also been floating around.
As far as that one neigh sayer is concerned, Im a customizer. People like me have often been accused of ruining cars (vary reasons like this, putting 350s in 32 ford ect.). Bottom line its some a little diferent and a 500 cad is just cooler than a big block ford chevy or chrysler
 
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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It's your vehicle, your baby, do what you want. It all boils down to what is practical for you.

The opinions voiced here about almost nil resale value, and it's being a pariah at a show are correct, and happen to coincide with mine.

I also hate to see Harley Davidsons with Yamaha engines, and Classic Mustangs with a hot Fiat 4 banger installed, but I am sure that's just me.

Bottom line, it's yours, you have to do what feels right for you.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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I'm not a purist either, but keep it in the family.... GM engines should stay in GM vehicles, Ford engines should stay in Ford vehicles.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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If your just after displacement, you could probably swap that 500 for a nice 460 that would just drop right into your 79. I put a 460 in my 77 4x4 that thing would go like scalded dog
 
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RidinNStyle54
Odd - I didnt see anywhere where it said "Members of this forum are not allowed to discuss / own / like anything else under the hood" . My truck is great - has the classic, mean looks and runs JUST the way I like it. I get a lot of compliments on it, yes even with the hood UP. Bottom line, IMHO, run what you like - the 500 is a good running motor bone stock, runs on pump gas, and a few minor mods and you have 500 lb/ft of torque at the rear wheels.


Hey whatever. But ahh I gave my opinion on an OPEN forum. Do I get to express my opinion too??? Or just you.

Funny you know, I wonder how well recieved a Ford engine into classic Gm car would be on a classic Gm enthusiasts board? Guys that do this are more interested in getting a rise than anything else. This of course is in light of the fact that Ford owns the best big block engine design of all in the 429- 460 family. You are going to have to be a pretty good persuader in order convince me you can find more bang for the buck in any other big block engine series. But of course all you "Ford enthusiasts" already knew that right???

BTW I love it how everybody has a 500" Caddy when they were only available for about 3 years and only in the Eldorado model. Ya think there might be some 472's mistakenly reffered to a 500's out there???
 
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 66f100
i,m building a 63 swb unibody and putting a 440 chrysler in it.
No one can deny a Mopar motor into a Ford F100 is going to be a bad ****.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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it,s a father/son project. dad likes mopar and had a 440 setting around and i like the unibodys and needed a engine so it turned out to be a nice project together
 
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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Boy, Henry! I'm picking up a little sarcasm in your post. Let's not take it personally. You want to see a Ford in a Ford. I like keeping the correct manufacturer's engine in something, but there's nothing wrong with being different, either. But you have your opinion and it is just as valid as anybody else's.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Henry Floored
Hey whatever. But ahh I gave my opinion on an OPEN forum. Do I get to express my opinion too??? Or just you.


BTW I love it how everybody has a 500" Caddy when they were only available for about 3 years and only in the Eldorado model. Ya think there might be some 472's mistakenly reffered to a 500's out there???
Henry Henry, Lord no we all can express our opinions. That's what is great about this site. BUT we can also all have our likes and dislikes and that means I suppose no nothing is sacred to some people.
Incidentally, there are many ways to tell a 500 caddy from a 472 or 425 or 368, just like there are ways to tell a 327 from a 350 chevy, 352 from a 360 Ford, etc. We do our homework. If you did yours, you would have found that: In 1970 the cadillac 472 had its bore changed to achieve the 500. For 4 years it was exclusive the the FWD Eldorado. In 75 and 75 ALL Cadillac vehicles came with that motor. Mine came from a Coupe de Ville, for example.
Next time try a little research before you jump in here with negativity, then people might not be so quick to jump back.
 

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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1975 and 1976 that is. pardon the typo....
Also I suppose we could go on for days about who built the "best" big block and gets the most "bang for the buck". That would depend on whether you want high RPM horsepower, low RPM torque, steetability, or what. I dare say you will find any STOCK motor to come with more low end torque than that 500 caddy. Guess I will do some more homework just to see if I can find factory ratings any higher...
 

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RidinNStyle54
Henry Henry, Lord no we all can express our opinions. That's what is great about this site. BUT we can also all have our likes and dislikes and that means I suppose no nothing is sacred to some people.
Incidentally, there are many ways to tell a 500 caddy from a 472 or 425 or 368, just like there are ways to tell a 327 from a 350 chevy, 352 from a 360 Ford, etc. We do our homework. If you did yours, you would have found that: In 1970 the cadillac 472 had its bore changed to achieve the 500. For 4 years it was exclusive the the FWD Eldorado. In 75 and 75 ALL Cadillac vehicles came with that motor. Mine came from a Coupe de Ville, for example.
Next time try a little research before you jump in here with negativity, then people might not be so quick to jump back.


The title of this thread is "Is This Sacrelage" right? Sorta sounds like the original poster kinda sees this swap as a bit controversial himself. In fact I'm sure that's why a large percentage of so called hotrodders morph their classic Ford vehicles into GM engine stands in the first place. The way I see it is that GM, Chrysler and Ford are rivals. Mostly friendly but sometimes bitter. If you don't believe it, study any segment like light truck sales for example. If you don't think the various companies are'nt competing you have another thing coming. It's a battleground out there. Further, more often than not, various auto enthusiasts align themselves and support one manufacturer or another in racing competition classes like NASCAR or whatever. These are usually contests that pit people,systems and engineering prowess against one another in order to improve the breed and market your strengths. Ford Motor Company is a large company with a full cachet' of vehicles and engines to power them. It's not as if they were out of business like Packard, Studebaker or ******. Unlike them, Ford is still building engines that one would think would be a logical choice to repower their classic and historical vehicles. Yet in droves Ford vehicles are b******ized and there is no sign of it slowing down. Yes I know each person owns their vehicle and therefore can do with it what they wish, but there is such a thing as being a good steward and caretaker of a marque'. The majority of posters on this thread prove further that when it comes to brand loyalty and pride so called Ford enthusiasts are definately lacking. Like I have said many times before go to a Chevy enthusiast forum and explain to then how you think a 4.6 Cobra engine would be the perfect powerplant for your `55 Nomad and you intend to swap one in, then see what a warm reception you get. I have a feeling the fellows in the other camp are a bit more guarded about what they think should happen to the classics that they love.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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Welcome to FTE Henry. It's a source of information and entertainment, not an armed camp.

I spent a number of years restoring classics for Pebble Beach, Silverado and various CCA concours events, being as you say a "good steward," maintaining originality etc. etc.
But now I have reverted back to the approach I had when building moonshiners cars. It's a lot more creative and more fun. A fifty-five Chevy with a Hemi is a lot more thrilling than hundred point Hispano-Suiza for me.

Lighten up and have some fun.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdox
Welcome to FTE Henry. It's a source of information and entertainment, not an armed camp.

I spent a number of years restoring classics for Pebble Beach, Silverado and various CCA concours events, being as you say a "good steward," maintaining originality etc. etc.
But now I have reverted back to the approach I had when building moonshiners cars. It's a lot more creative and more fun. A fifty-five Chevy with a Hemi is a lot more thrilling than hundred point Hispano-Suiza for me.

Lighten up and have some fun.


Thank you Bdox,

Remembering the title of this thread "Is This Sacrelage", there seems to a solicitation of opinion just by that approach. I hardly think that the brutal truth is really going to hurt anyones feelings anyways especially since most on here seem to have quite a firm grasp on what they think is right. I guess you may have misunderstood my metaphors of "rivalries" and "camps". It's just that it seems to be very difficult for me to try to explain what one would think would be obvious. I'm an old car enthusiast with a passion for Fords. I like `em all restored and rodded as well. I think I'd rather have a Hispano- Suiza than a `55 Chev but I'd take either. But for claritys sake, just how many `55 Chevys do you see running around with Chrysler hemis in them? I'll bet that's rare, nothing like the wholesale abandonment of Ford power by the vast majority of monkey see monkey do hot rodder.
 
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