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I am looking to get a 351 engine. I am wanting to fix this engine up for strip racing. my question is which would be better for this application a 351W, or 351M. I am probably looking for something in the mid-late 70's era. and also what would be some good cam numbers to look for. I would like to have good performance from idle(or close to it) to around 5,000. I will probably have a holly 750 carb with a three or four speed manual trans.
I am looking to get a 351 engine. I am wanting to fix this engine up for strip racing. my question is which would be better for this application a 351W, or 351M. I am probably looking for something in the mid-late 70's era. and also what would be some good cam numbers to look for. I would like to have good performance from idle(or close to it) to around 5,000. I will probably have a holly 750 carb with a three or four speed manual trans.
A 351w would be a better choice for racing with. It is much cheaper to buil than a m. Try a cam with about a 220 duration at .050 with about .490 to .500 lift and a 110 lobe seperation.
Run flat top pistons to get about 9.0 - 1 compression. With your 4 speed and 3.70's you should be able to expect mid to high 14's.
I'm running a 302 with about the same cam as i described and 10 - 1 compression and run 15.02's.
15 second 1979 f-100 - 302, 3.70's, Powertrax Locker, MSD box, 2300 stall, headers, 4bbl. SOON to be 14 second 79.
I would rather PUSH a Ford than drive a Chevy!
The 351M is a 351C, almost. It will make more HP and bolts to a C-6 which handles more HP. If you need more HP then build a big block - M/C block. It is true, it will cost more.
Good Luck, Have Fun,
KingFisher
You should go with the 351w because it`s very easy to get speed part`s for it and edelbrock has a package to make 400hp@6500rpm and 412ft/lbs@4500rpm.The 351m is a higher deck vershon of the 351c with very few speed parts it`s a good torque motor for truck`s. Hope that helps bigcat.
This day and age w/ the developement of computer aided head designs for 302/351W and also the cam development for them, I'd say the Windsor is a better choice for building to race. A "M" has head design in common w/ the Clevelands, but that motor while the better motor back in the early 70's hasn't been developed like the Windsor has. Seems like stroker 351w seem available today even from Ford Performance Racing. I think I've seen as large as a 427 made from Windsor block. Ford sells a 392 stroker as a crate motor. Performance intakes will be much more to choose from too as well as head options.
what are yalls opinions on this. I would like a 351 because you can turn it hard and aftermafket performance parts are readily available, but I already have a spare 390 setting in parts in my garage. what would yall think about just putting the 390 in it instead. since this engine has a longer stroke it will have more torque but can I turn it as hard as a 351? I have seen several performance parts for theese engines but not in as many varieties as the 351's.
what would yall do in this situation, but a 351(probably a 351W) or just throw the 390 together and stick it in there?
Do not use a 351m, it is not good for performance. It does not share the heads with the clevland, they are similar, demensionally but the ports, ect. are completely different.
A 351windsor is a good choice. I have a 390 and I like it. It will run lower rpm for the same power the windsor would make at higher rpm. If you are able to do it, go with the 390, otherwise you can't go very wrong with a 351w.
You know the bigger relatives of the 390, the 406 and 427 were used in some seriously high rpm racing in the 60s and they had the same stroke as the 390 so they theoretically could wrap up. The good 427's had some oiling mods' though and solid lifters. One even had overhead cam. Ask me about the 390 when I find the one I've gambled on is an OK runner. For the sake of thinking of parts availibility, developement, and cost, I think again about Fords Windsor based stroker motor 392. How many high performance head options can you think of for 302/351W like Trick Flow, World Windsor heads, Canfield, ect ect and then take inventory of modern CNC computer modeled and flowed pieces for sale on FE motors. Edelbrock and? I guess as I ponder the question of speed and power, it comes back to how much you want to spend? Some guys have made some 4 bangers get some scary HP. I bet anyway you go will give you the ability to collect a really big ticket on the highway. Also why not think of building a Lima (429,460 and the stroker monsters based on these)